Curioso 🍉 🇺🇦 (jgg) @jgg@qoto.org

@nasd1066

Aparte de lo de las lluvias (tema que tendrá más o menos interés según donde vivas, como pasó con Filomena), aquí hay otro problema, y es que cuando sale una filtración o similar masiva en la que hay mierda para mucha gente, lo de cada uno tiende a pasar desapercibido en comparación con lo que hubiera sido si se hubiera descubierto individualmente.

Mancha más "Fulano ha hecho X" que "Han hecho X Fulano, Mengano, Zutano, y 200 más".

Esta semana me he enterado de que la moda moderna es que la vivienda pública, tanto la adjudicación para compra como el alquiler, sea de gestión privada, generalmente por las mismas empresas y fondos de inversión que se están forrando con lo mucho que están subiendo los precios. Y esto está pasando tanto a nivel del estado, como autonómico.

Quiero pensar que el motivo es que así apoquinan gran parte del dinero para construirlos o comprarlos, como se hace con las autopistas. Quiero.

En cualquier caso, me parece algo realmente escandaloso:
- Es un obvio conflicto de intereses.
- Es innecesario: a malas, ¡emite deuda pública, que es un dinero que vas a recuperar!
- Garantiza problemas a medio y largo plazo: cuando la prioridad es ganar dinero, el interés social sale por la ventana.
- Se lo pone muy, muy fácil a los chorizos de siempre. Ya estamos viendo lo fácil que lo tienen siendo de gestión pública, imaginaos siendo privada, con comisionistas, porcentajes, etc.

De verdad, ¿hay alguien con media neurona al volante?

@leaverou

Well, that's classical AI slop; it even made a bunch of straw mans.

The main point of that slop is that chatbots answers are the equivalent to web search snippets. That's simply not true for most of people. Snippets function is to help you determine which search results you want to follow, and encourage you to do so displaying the link prominently. Chatbot answers, most of the times, do the opposite; most of times, they don't even give links; and even when they do, they are tiny, and make it easier asking for details than follow the link and read the page.

About art, that's a more debatable thing. I think the most important point here is art is a form of communication between at least two persons where skill is used as a form of expression. LLM art usually demonstrate very little skills, and send mixed signals, since it is a mix of several artists work, that the AI finds get nearest to what the prompt describes.

At this point, I have to say that I'm a bit sick of hearing people say that something has been made 100% by an AI, when the effort someone made with the prompt is roughly equal to what they would have had to do if they were to do it without the AI. When I type a text in a keyboard, nobody says the text was done by the keyboard. Nobody says the Sixtine Chapel was painted by a bunch of brushes. The one who makes something is whoever dictates every detail, not the tool. 3D artists got bugged at first by people saying their art was made by computers. Wrong. It was made with computers.

So if you dictate every tiny detail of an image, then it was not made by an AI, it was made with an AI, and it may be art.

If your prompt is minimal, then, ok, your image is made by an AI, will have minimal or none artistic value, and people will be right in calling it AI slop.

On the other hand, I hate when people asks AIs to "correct" or "enhance" their text, transforming them in boring, zero personality texts. There were too many of them before AI, and AI has made that much worse. That's the opposite of art.

@mbpaz @qualcu @Gotaku

Bueno, también hay que tener en cuenta que cuanto menor sea el ámbito geográfico que cubres, más fácil te va a ser cuando alguien llame saber dónde está el sitio en cuestión, qué recursos hay para ayudar, a quién hay que llamar...

Otra cosa es que los responsables del servicio sean unos inútiles y ante una situación así no refuercen el servicio.

Yo he visto a la administración pública movilizar a más de 50 funcionarios para una tarea que sólo iban a hacer ese día, que no iban a repetir en años, y que no tenía nada que ver con su trabajo diario.

Requiere preparación y trabajo, pero se puede hacer.

@leaverou

Paywalls and walled gardens, bad as they are, would be a blessing compared to what an AI first world will be.

Nowadays, many people doesn't search the web anymore; they ask ChatGPT and believes whatever it says. They aren't in forums, they don't read any blogs, or papers. Only AI.

Even worse, website owners are contracting Cloudflare services in troves in order to block agentic AI and AI training to flooding them with traffic akin to denial of service attacks.

So costs are raising, income is tanked, user numbers in decline. There is no way that's sustainable.

AI companies are creating the final walled garden, with the hugest paywall ever. Once everybody is using AI instead the web, they will do what big tech companies always do: putting ads and raising prices. A lot. OpenAI is already testing ways to put ads, in fact.

And there will no way to turn back, because people will not be using browsers anymore.

Only AI.

@leaverou

AI is giving the same information the web was giving me, but much less reliable, and at the price of losing the original. Replacing something by a lossy copy is always a bad idea.

About creative resources, that would be long to explain. For starters, AI generated art is an oxymoron. In other domains, it may be a help for routine work, with heavy supervision.

There was a time when the Internet was many things: email, news, IRC, the web... Until the web ate everything else (they survive, but they are a shadow of their former glory).

The AI is replacing the web. A thing made by thousands of humans with love and effort is being replaced by an impersonal thing full of whatever their billionaire owner wants to fill it.

That's not a win for the Internet, it is a huge, terrible loss. For the Internet and all of us.

Yeah, now it is fun, and has its uses.

But I am thinking long term.

I love the web, I want the web. No replacements, please.

@leaverou

Humans have an intrinsic value of infinite. The intrinsic value of an AI is zero: if it is not useful, it is worthless. Let's not compare. There is a reason CFCs are still used for medical uses, and nothing else.

Internet got us the ability of having instantaneous worldwide communications, and access to the hugest amount of information ever, including things common folks didn't have access even travelling. Telegrams, phone and mail were not nearly as fast or comprehensive.

About AI expertise: I wouldn't call what AIs have 'expertise'; but I don't think there is a word for it yet.

By the way, I find hard to believe that someone who obviously loves the WWW as much as you do, and has done such an amazing work empowering and divulging it, has such nice things to say about the thing that is killing the web, site by site. At this rate, very soon web pages will be the new Usenet.

I feel really sad each time I think about it. No kidding.

@Illuminatus @Rataunderground

Siendo justos, su argumento era que teniendo en cuenta el impacto económico y social que implicaría renunciar a los combustibles fósiles, le parecía prematuro anunciarlo como algo real con la poca evidencia que había entonces. Se corría el riesgo de equivocarse y arruinar la credibilidad de la ciencia.

Y tenía razón que la evidencia era justita entonces, y podía ser que cambiaran las tornas.

Pero como se murió poco después, nunca sabremos si al cabo de cinco años hubiera cambiado de tercio y se hubiera convertido en un campeón de las energías alternativas o se hubiera revelado como un gilipollas (porque, a diferencia del típico negacionista, este tenía información de sobra).

También es cierto que, con la información que había entonces, e incluso ignorando el cambio climático, lo de renunciar a los combustibles fósiles seguía siendo una excelente idea. En fin.

Parte importante del problema es que, por mucho que se documentara y hablara con científicos, él no lo era y hablaba de esos temas con una seguridad que ni los científicos tienen, principalmente porque los científicos son los que más conscientes son de los límites de lo que saben.

@leaverou

What does AI do that was not possible before? Using humans, I mean.

Currently, it is not nearly as revolutionary as the Internet or smartphones were, and it is costing us a bunch of orders of magnitude more in human, property rights, energy and environmental costs. Not cool.

@mitch

They forgot the 'illegally entering the planet and forging documents to avoid the authorities' part.