Everybody who sounded alarms about Mastinator and filled #FediBlock with posts to block it need to evaluate whether the Fediverse is right for them. As I reminded multiple people who I believe have now blocked me, Mastinator only made use of the ActivityPub standard as published. It wasn't hacking, it wasn't "scraping", it wasn't abusing the network in any way that countless actual bad actors couldn't. @boyter's post on the front page of mastinator.com/ is a good read. #MastoAdmin

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> joined December 2022
And you're already spokesperson for what is good and right on this network huh?

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@ava A trans person telling other people that they're not valid because (absurd, made up) reasons? I never thought I'd live to see that!

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@josemanuel I respect their reasoning and thinking. A large portion of what is being used was built by similar people. We owe them a lot for what was done in the early days.

I just want people to realise this is all public, and if you aren't comfortable with that you need to rethink how you communicate online. There are lots of other tools that offer privacy if that's what you want, or at least consider having your own federation with an allow-list.

@boyter I realised this was all public (including DMs) in 2017, but still don't like seeing the protocol being abused just because it is possible to do so. In that, I agree with what @ceoln said in that thread.

Think of the Fediverse like any other human society. In society there are rules, but that doesn't mean people can't break them. The question is, if rules can be broken, why do most people abide by them? Because we all implicitly know that following the rules (most of them, at least) makes sense. There's no incentive for us to break them, but following them helps us live more carefreely.

That's why my follows are still open to this day. Not because I don't care about my posts being published somewhere else (I do and I don't like it), but because the possibility of that happening was negligible.

I think you're deflecting the issue. We all knew this was all public. We didn't need you to open our eyes to that fact. We need you to take the next step and come up with an idea that makes us safer instead.

@josemanuel A random sample of the responses I got suggest that a lot of people did not know this was public.

Also as I keep pointing out, society rules change, and when you get 10 million more people joining their rules are going to be the ones that matter, because they will outnumber everyone else.

If that is problematic (and it seems like it might be) then you need to start taking real steps to protect yourself, and others.

@josemanuel Oh and I have made a few suggestions regarding how to make things safer.

I am also thinking that there should be the ability to have some sort of PoW HashCash system, based on reputation to discourage a lot of things. Just an idea stage at this point but something I would like to implement.

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