josemanuel @josemanuel@qoto.org

@shawnhcorey Thanks a lot for the advice. It's not paranoia (well, maybe there's some of that, too). It's just that they're library files, they don't even have a she-bang, but some of them are executable and others, apparently equal, are not. They caught my attention because Perl files are given such strange permissions on install, and that led me into this rabbit hole of investigating how and why.

What I ended up doing was chmodding 644 all .pm and .pod files and letting ExtUtils do its thing (i.e., turning 644 into 444) during the install process. It seems to have worked fine so far.

I was just thinking that while in the bathroom earlier. No joke.

@SinclairSpeccy@bitbang.social Happy birthday, @volkerdi!

Thank you for dedicating more than half of your life to making us slackers less grumpy when using our computers.

@cyrilpedia That's definitely unfortunate. My original thought process was that both scientific data and methodology are ultimately published in peer-reviewed papers, so they are shared, albeit indirectly.

I see now that there can be instances where that is not the case. Thanks.

@cyrilpedia Why ‘unfortunately’? Unlike minerals or other physical resources, scientific data are usually shared, and results are supposed to be reproducible, so it's not like they can be taken away. What am I missing?

W. Richard Stevens' _TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1_ dedicates a grand total of four lines of text to the World Wide Web. He devoted more space to something called Veronica (Very Easy Rodent-Oriented Netwide Index to Computerized Archives).

That's one of the many reasons his books are true classics and works of genius.

That said, there is no mention of IRC in the whole thing, and NNTP only appears in a table without any significant detail added, which goes to show that geniuses make mistakes too.

I understand now why grandparents and grandkids get along so well. There comes a moment in life when one starts to feel out of place talking to young people or other adults. I think that's because they take themselves too seriously. On the other hand, old people and children take everything seriously but themselves, and that's why they can be silly together.

@reidrac@social.sdf.org Those who grew up with DOS don't have many fond memories of it. (After all, it was just a PC, and a very useless one.) I have much more love for my own MSX2 or my friends' Amstrads, Spectrums or C64.

@leonerd Thanks a lot! I downloaded the modules from CPAN, and some of those files come with 755 permissions. Then ExtUtils, I believe, chmods them to 555 at install time. It was making me crazy, because I couldn't find any fundamental difference between them and those who got 444 permissions.

If someone knowledgeable at Perl reads this, can you please tell me why it is that, when installing a module, some *.pm files are executable (555) and others are not (444). What makes the former special? Also, why does Perl use such weird permissions? Thank you in advance.

#perl #linux

@Moon Does the quoted person get notified in your case? We don't do that at qoto, but I always thought we should.

@coolboymew @romin

@Moon Wow. I thought you had them for years. So, only Misskey and us had them? Cool.

@coolboymew @romin

@coolboymew Welcome to the club, then.

@romin

@coolboymew You didn't have quote posts before or what?

@romin

@anonicus Then there's [aNONradio](http://anonradio.net:8000/anonradio), which has presence on Fedi; [Astronomy.FM](http://radio.astronomy.fm:8111/live); [KCRW](http://media.kcrw.com/pls/kcrwsimulcast.pls); [KEXP](https://kexp-mp3-128.streamguys1.com/kexp128.mp3?listenerid=fe4cce49e21246e409727f379280eb91&awparams=companionAds%3Afalse); [Radio 3 RNE](https://rtvelivestream.akamaized.net/segments/rne/rne_r3_main.m3u8); [tilderadio](https://azuracast.tilderadio.org/radio/8000/radio.ogg); [Yggdrasil Radio](https://yggdrasilradio.net/yggdrasilradio_mp3_128kbps.pls); or [信州大学志賀自然教育園](https://mp3s.nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp/OTANOMO_CyberForest.mp3) (I don't even know how this one is pronounced, but I think it's from Tokyo University.)

I have more if you need them. You can listen to them with MPlayer.

By the way, I don't know if the links will turn up right. I've never tried using them before.

@anonicus What are you interested in? Music, talk radio, or just about anything? Any linguistic preferences?

@nachocarreras Y por cosas como ésas se sabe que los que abogan por la solución de dos estados no quieren la paz. Lo que quieren es que Israel arrase por fin con todos los palestinos y no hagan falta dos estados.

@X_net
> Un uso sano e integrado con el aprendizaje.

Si no pueden mirarlo mientras se desarrolla la clase, no veo cómo puede integrarse su uso con el aprendizaje. Y si les dejan mirarlo, harán como los adultos.

> Y en las pausas que lo miren si quieren.

¿Para qué? Lo único que ganarían con mirarlo cinco minutos es distraerse durante la hora siguiente pensando en lo que han visto o en lo que no les ha dado tiempo a ver.

> O si no que quiten a los padres el móvil 6 horas al día...

Por mí, bien. Y seguramente por muchos padres casi que también. Yo mismo nunca saco el móvil de casa. Sólo lo tengo porque he notado que en ciertos ámbitos sociales penaliza dar un teléfono fijo o directamente es imposible completar determinadas gestiones sin él.

> Y de paso prohibamos la tele, que eso sí que es malo.

Bien también. Aunque si es por los niños, no os molestéis. Ya no ven la tele. Mi sobrino apenas sabe nada de lo que pasa en el mundo si se sale de lo que pueda ver por Twitch.

En mi opinión, el móvil en el aula va incluso en contra de vuestros propios intereses como organización. Fomentar el uso de una herramienta de vigilancia e identificación permanentes por parte de los niños es una barbaridad, por no decir que debería ser ilegal, como el alcohol o el tabaco.

Es que ni siquiera es una herramienta de emancipación tecnológica, como puede ser un ordenador personal, con el que se puede aprender a programar. En la mayoría de los casos, tampoco se puede destripar para ver cómo funciona. Son objetos diseñados para dificultar su propia reparación. Un teléfono móvil sólo crea ciudadanos pasivos e ignorantes.

@Paul_Aguayo 1. Qg6, followed by 2. f7++.