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What's preventing Ukraine from doing a hostile action against NATO triggering article 5 and be invaded by NATO to restore peace and stability?

@kreyren the one thing you do not possess - common sense. The only thing the people want is for the war to stop asap, while the only thing you seem to want is for their country go up in smoke, while you pleasure yourself watching russian soldiers die.

@namark Their country is already in smoke and i do not find death of humans and animals a pleasing thing to watch rather distressing.

NATO has obligation to defend it's members through art 5 if ukraine attacks NATO then this obligation would have to be fullfilled.

@kreyren oh yes and for the purposes of defending against the loosing side, NATO will absolutely have to invade ukraine, clash with russians, and ensure that absolutely nothing is left of the country in the aftermath, and sure as hell not any hope of any form of autonomy. Will you ever stop spamming the timeline with your weird fetishes?

@namark i didn't say NATO fighting russians i said NATO fulfilling it's obligation to defend it's members namely defend against ukraine

@kreyren so you didn't mean it as a provocation and excuse for a clash, instead ukraine should show that they are indeed crazy extrimists, and that rf was right to invade, and that nato and rf should team up to royally fuck em up?

que "noooo, the benevolent nato soldiers do not cause harm when they invade, they only bring peace and prosperity wherever they go, every country should wish nato invaded them"

@namark didn't say every i said that in this situation it would bring peace and stability without confronting the russian army

@Eris @kreyren holy shit. I....what? this can't be a real person. can it?
@Eris @kreyren Mr Putin made it perfectly clear in his opening address to this conflict what would happen if "external interference" was to happen in Ukraine. "consequences the world has never seen" I believe would be the english translation.

@blackeyes @Eris what gives him the right to decide what happens in ukraine?

I did recognize the security concerns and both NATO and CSTO removed some of it's weapons to de-escalate and yet he still invaded..

@kreyren @Eris in the practical realm, Russia is the more powerful country so they make some of the rules for some of its neighbors. Also, they are a nuclear power and permanently on the Security Council.

10 years of bad decisions from everyone on all sides. this invasion was a foregone conclusion since at least december when russia asked us to not let Ukraine into NATO. I just don’t see how the people in charge on the US side thought Russia was just going to do nothing about Ukraine going with NATO.

@blackeyes @Eris Same argument can be applied from NATO that NATO is the more powerful alliance to maintain democracy of it's neighbors, but i do agree that this is a political failure on NATO side.

@kreyren @blackeyes
>what gives him the right to decide what happens in ukraine?
What gives joe biden's molested crackhead son the right?
@blackeyes @kreyren

PLEASE TELL ME WHY A CHILD MOLESTING PEDOPHILE OIL BARON GETS TO OWN THE UKRAINE AND NOT THE GREAT AND PROUD EMPEROR OF RUSSIA, VLADIMIR PUTIN?
@Eris @kreyren I wonder if old man joe ever thinks ‘the wrong son died’
@blackeyes @Eris @kreyren no the right one did since now he's not around to see this complete embarrassment of his family.
@blackeyes @kreyren

LISTEN JUST BECAUSE YOU CONTROL A VITAL SUBMARINE RATLINE ROUTE DOESN'T MEAN YOU GET TO OWN THE WHOLE WORLD JOE ADRENOCHROME ISNT THAT VALUABLE PLEASE KNOW YOUR PLACE

@Eris @blackeyes We are not like putin.

None in NATO wants to own the world, we want the world to be able to control itself through the word of it's people.

Establish a democratic governance with a sustainable governance and you can join us in that effort as an equal.

@kreyren @Eris NATO is a military alliance that exists solely to antagonize Russia.
@kreyren @blackeyes You have fallen for the reverse cargo cult meme. You are hypernormalized. You think your plane works.
@kreyren @blackeyes
>The word hypernormalization was coined by Alexei Yurchak, a professor of anthropology who was born in Leningrad and later went to teach in the United States. He introduced the word in his book Everything Was Forever, Until It Was No More: The Last Soviet Generation (2006), which describes paradoxes of Soviet life during the 1970s and 1980s.[3][4] He says that everyone in the Soviet Union knew the system was failing, but no one could imagine an alternative to the status quo, and politicians and citizens alike were resigned to maintaining the pretense of a functioning society.[5] Over time, this delusion became a self-fulfilling prophecy and the fakeness was accepted by everyone as real, an effect that Yurchak termed hypernormalisation.[6]
Hope this helps!

@Eris @blackeyes and FYI it hurts me to call putin a fascist i am slav and i respected him a lot

@Eris @blackeyes @kreyren This is what the media should be talking about but isn't. At least the laptop and the images on it if the media wasn't bought and paid for. Our president has molested his kids and his kids are traumatized and keep the cycle going. They are disgusting perverts.

@Eris why? I am not saying NATO going in conflict with CSTO i am saying NATO going in conflict with Ukraine

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