#transgender I'd be interested what people on the Federation think of this teacher wearing prosthetic breasts with nipples showing. Personally, I support the individual's right to wear what they want, but not in the workplace or school.
It's not professional in my opinion, and isn't what most of us want our children seeing while at school. Thoughts? https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-a-classroom-is-no-place-for-wearing-massive-prosthetic-breasts
@PiedraFiera I'm not afraid of nipples being seen, but they don't belong in the workplace. Your argument is quite silly. Have you never heard of decorum? For the same reason, we wear business attire to work, and don't arrive in bare feet and without a shirt. Has nothing to do with colonialism, FFS!
Teaching is a profession and as such they should dress as professionals. What one does outside of work is their own business, at work it's up to the boss, which in this case are the people of the school board and city this teacher works in. They should have the final say, and they have said it's not appropriate.
@marathon0
Banning nipples from the workplace is worse than silly, it is misogyny. Babies go unfed in some contexts because banning the sight of nipples takes priority. Nipples belong on people's bodies and making them an issue in a professional context may be considered sexual harassment.
Also. What is considered appropriate and professional in a territory like Canada, that still is submitted to the Crown's whims, is very much due to colonialism.
@PiedraFiera
No it's definitely not colonialism, but custom. We wear business suits if we're a professional while at work. It's considered 'tacky' to dress like a slut at work. That's called custom and you'll find this throughout the world, not just in Canada. In any event the board is going to revise the rules, because students are held to a higher standard - They would be sent home from school if wearing revealing clothes. So, stay tuned.
@marathon0
What anyone considers tacky is more about their class origin and aspirations than about customs that are more or less shared throughout the world, even if expressed with different standards. How you decide to engage in classism, racism and misogyny is not only about "custom", but customs that will get opposed.
In some countries women are opposing the hijab, in others the whole "revealing clothes" BS.
I think dressing like a slut at work or anywhere is pretty good praxis. Because it sets a precedent: that sluts belong everywhere because they are people and that is enough for them to respected and included.
@marathon0 I would generally support whatever people choose to do, as long as they don't bother others. So, a transgender teacher wearing prosthetic breasts in school is ok to me, if and only if she: a) wearing a bra (aka not showing her nipples), b) the size of prosthetic breasts is not crazy or unrealistic.
Considering how hard life is in China, and how the government and idiot majority think about/against trans, I would say most trans in China have to hide the fact from others, even from their parents. There was a news report from years ago, an MtF teacher was fired from the school for no legal reasons, despite how students liked her and how hard she worked. It's just because she is trans, and society doesn't accept it.
@skyblond Thanks for your honest answer and opinion. :-) I must admit I don't understand transgenderism at all, and why people like to flaunt it in the open and public. I'm with the public that doesn't condone it. Too freakish for my old soul. I'm just getting used to the fact that I have a dear family memeber that came out as gay. So, guess I'm old fashioned.
@marathon0 I think it's just a way to define themselves. Just like I want to be an honest person, and they want to be a girl/boy/whatever gender they want to be. I explained to myself in that way (they are both hard roads to take), since for me (22 years old), I think I'm not fashioned enough to really get it. I mean, yes, girls are cute and can be very pretty. But still, despite few talented people can entirely hide their male characteristics and dress like a beautiful female, most MtF still got at least some male body characteristics, and that makes me feel very weird (No offense to those MtF, that weirdness comes out from the gender-identifying part of my brain, which is confused seeing both male and female characteristics at the same time on the same person).
Also, as far as I know, MtF needs to take medicines during their entire life. There is an SRS operation (gender reassignment surgery) to help them "fix" their body, but they still cannot produce certain hormones. And according to some unconfirmed messages, those medicines may reduce their lifespan a lot.
Although I don't really understand why they decide to become a transgender (yes, girls are pretty, but gentlemen in Kingsman are also handsome, I would generally accept who I am and what body I have), based on those downsides, risks, and the hard life they take (in China and some other countries), I would respect their choice and would like to support them to get legal rights.
@marathon0 Honestly, I fear some folks that grew up shielded from the sight of nipples. Free the nipples, I say. Why is it not professional? I think that people wearing prosthetic is quite human, we love tools and prosthetic are just that. Them being large or having nipples should be a non issue. Anyone finding them distracting is probably distracted because they have been artificially made a rare sight by harassing folks into presenting as nipple free creatures.
These views are paired with assuming that the whole world grieves the death of a white woman responsible for genocide so it figures. They fail to note why celebrating a mass murderer might be triggering to some, but consider legitimate fearing the influence of nipples on young minds. Colonialism much?
And I mean it. being afraid of those people. They are over represented when it comes to sexually harassing others because they assumed their physical presentation somehow makes it okay.