Olives @olives@qoto.org

@thenexusofprivacy @fight How did you do that inline link "@fight's statement"?

@freemo While there have been users who "walked the line" (something I suspect they'll have a bigger issue with with Threads joining the federation, frankly, welcome to moderation in the real world), you absolutely do moderate.

I've seen servers which "do not moderate" (or not in that particular area). If you did not moderate, I would expect it to look a lot more like that.

"He rubbed me the wrong way." is weak reasoning.

There is also some weirdo who thinks that every person called "Jeff" is the same person. I even suspect he is doing this deliberately. In any case, it's a different website.

@Melpomene@erisly.social @onrust While no one likes Facebook over-reaching, I think that messing around with 230 would probably lead to more blunt decisions, not fewer. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive

@BeAware@social.beaware.live An issue someone specifically raised about the *bridge* (not Bluesky itself, although maybe, someone doesn't trust them either) was that it might be in a position to MITM private or semi-private content.

I think people should already be wary of the privacy of content, particularly when it's going out to so many servers, but that is another possible factor.

@BeAware@social.beaware.live I don't know about anyone else but the issue I have with Bluesky isn't that it's run by a company per se.

The issue I have with Bluesky is that it's another case of people parachuting in to try to "save everyone".

They're also so out of touch they think regurgitating QAnon language (without really thinking a whole lot about whether it makes sense) is "policy".

They also promise it will become decentralized at some point in the future. It isn't currently. Also, this sort of "behind closed doors" development is a red flag.

When marketing it, they throw a load of crypto jargon at you, although I suppose it's a Jack Dorsey production, so this makes sense.

@BeAware@social.beaware.live @sergeant @freemo @trinsec From what I've heard, he is going to add the feature in soon, but hasn't done so yet.

@Raccoon https://qoto.org/@olives/111888946356326887 Well, it's not necessarily that porn is bad, but like, weirdos on the Internet. Some of whom seem to be trolls, shitposters, attention seekers. I imagine many people are fine.

I've considered creating an instance before with a high level of free expression, but without people stirring up trouble, then again, I haven't thought about that in quite some time. The reason for this was that, in quite a few cases, there seemed to be a sense of "this instance is less moderated, well, go there then" or "free speech" (which might be why you see quite a few wackos).

Then again, rather than it being a lack of instances, part of the problem might be poor signposting, where someone is only ever directed to over-moderated instances (or ones which otherwise don't really fit their needs).

Blocks honestly feel like a blunt instrument, and I think that while, yeah, sure, someone might want to moderate proper harassment, there comes a point where someone is trying to uphold an impossible standard of "never seeing anything upsetting" (the holiday resort mentality). When it comes to porn, I also wonder whether there are better options (perhaps, they don't currently exist, or aren't currently that great, but maybe they could), to avoid a splinternet where ever possible.

Also, from watching one tag, there is a noisy admin who gets pretty creepy, as they talk as if people are "subhumans" over some cartoon, and supposedly go full QAnon looking for things to complain about (which don't even have anything to do with porn, and also beyond advocacy for abuse). It all starts to look super creepy and obsessive. Even excluding that one, you still wind up with toxic admins, even a few with narcissistic tendencies.

This isn't really commenting on your moderation in particular, these are just observations I have on moderation on the fedi in general.

@polotek A lot of the time, it is less companies and more people parachuting in and thinking they run the place.

From crypto bros destroying instances previously run by local overseas companies.

From companies turning up one day, like that hachy instance, and suddenly thinking they're the center of "policy".

From Facebook trying to smear the place to promote their Threads crap.