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@thomasareed

Aside: IME pictures of food aren't that common IRL. In places that ban billboard ads, I don't expect to see pictures of food outside other than in places that do something with food specifically (places serving food, grocery stores, ...).

Regardless of conclusions, I think that this line of reasoning is somewhat suspect. I would summarize the way I understand it as "things that are common IRL cannot be avoided anyway, so making avoidance easier is not too important" (please do correct me if I misread).

First, "common IRL" changes over time. For example, punishment by public humilation became rarer, while public wearing of more revealing clothing became more common. Anchoring at "currently common IRL" serves as a status quo bias and I would imagine that it can be strong enough (if present across the society) to create a local minimum. (Also, commonality changes over space: e.g. there are places where war is a very common and inescapable topic.)

Second, if one wishes to avoid mentions of a thing that's reasonably common in public space, they often can do so at the cost of expending effort (or money, or not taking part in some situations). This has costs that are mostly additive across different situations when one has to do that, so the cost delta that depends on decisions of e.g. posters on fediverse is not affected by the popularity of the concept IRL _for people using these kinds of strategies_.

@whvholst @jrm4

I saw somewhere (can't easily find again now) that the ban does not include paid versions, where there is some contract that specifies something about data usage. Do you know if that's true?

@esencjalista

> Nie liczy się to ile osób cię obserwuje, bo nikomu się twój profil nie wyświetli i tak.

IIUC Twoje publiczne posty pojawiają się w federated timeline na instancji X, jeśli _ktoś_ z instancji X ciebie followuje.

@grrrr_shark When I moved here, I got the impression that bureaucracy deals well with non-average cases here; it might very well be that (a) I am closer to average here than in Poland (b) once again, age changes (c) I might be looking at different distances from average than you (and the whole thing need not be even monotonic as a function of distance) (d) bureaucracy in Poland (east of iron curtain?) is just very bad.

@joningold I have no clue how ecosia does suggestions, but I'd assume that most naive ways to implement suggestions would end up inferring from smaller-and-smaller datasets when the query becomes longer and/or less common. This might be an artifact of something of that sort?

That said, I do find it weird: "do not display suggestions" or "widen the dataset" are two things one can do when that happens, and privacy controls (assuming suggestions are based on users' self-corrections) provide information on when to use them.

@grrrr_shark

Even if we remove the doctor's incentive to drag it out, avoidance of responsibility alone incentivizes everyone to behave in the exact same way, no?

@grrrr_shark On one hand, if a person is tasked with doing X (regardless of how they're incentivized to do X) they usually will follow their incentives. That would happen regardless of how economy works in a given world (though there's the question of how strongly people are incentivized not to quit their job[*], which depends on the economic system).

Apart from such incentives on individuals, I don't see how capitalism could create incentives on public administration. Are you referring to competition between Gemeindes on tax rates as the capitalistic incentive that's present there? I would really love to know how important a driving force that is.

[*] Well, also the existence of the concept of the job itself.

@js@mstdn.io @timorl @a3000ux

We wanted to get the token on the machine :)

@grrrr_shark Why do you think this is related to capitalism? I would not expect the sillyness of StVA to be related.

@js@mstdn.io @timorl @a3000ux

We didn't think of using lynx to log in, and the way via an oauth app seems to be the only way that's supposed to be non-interactive.

(What we messed up along the way which would have made error printing useful:
- not set Content-Type,
- typoed a field name in request,
- something else that I don't remember.)

@js@mstdn.io @timorl @a3000ux

A (possible still broken) wget invocation that would get a token (we've managed to register an oauth app and had the network die on us once more when trying to get a token; what made it more annoying that it should have been is that that wget was old enough not to support storing bodies of errors, so there was lots of guesswork involved).

@js@mstdn.io @timorl @a3000ux

Did you find `aaa.sh` or did you start from scratch?

@cafkafk Hm~ so, you could make the same argument about the setup you're proposing.

@cafkafk But in cases of loans all the parties involved are incentivized to create loans, because they believe this will increase the share of total money in existence that they own, no?

@kuba Nieno, wkładki o mapie grubości nie mającej wiele wspólnego z pacjentem to jest dość biedny pomysł. Chodziło mi o tych, do których ortopeda cię wysyła żeby stwierdzili jaki masz kształt stopy i wyprodukowali wkładki. Zazwyczaj oni mają też rozsądne rozeznanie w tym jak znaleźć buty które są w różnych miejscach na nieoczywistych osiach (rzeczy typu stywność na skręcanie, zginanie cholewki w bok, wysokość przestrzeni w okolicy podbicia, szerokość).

@kuba Ludzi robiących wkładki na zamówienie lekarzy.

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