robryk @robryk@qoto.org

@sgf

One thing I perhaps didn't make clear: I think that nearly always convincing a person of one particular fact is ~unimportant compared to improving their likelihood of acquiring convictions that are true in the future.

@sgf

I don't really have one; it's one of the things I can't effectively do unless the person cooperates quite a bit (by being at least somewhat curious).

> Bear in mind that the "non-argument-based methods" don't do away with facts, they just use them differently.

Hm~ I'm not sure which methods you mean exactly. For example, claiming that existence of an anecdote proves the general statement that the anecdote would be an example of kinda relies on facts, but nevertheless is extremely bad way to change one's beliefs to more truthful ones.

If you know of methods that don't "teach"/reinforce false implications, are more strongly "truth-aligned" than the anecdote examples above and yet are not argument based, I'd really want to know about them.

@TechConnectify

Thank you, it's very nice to know about this split. Do you know if the music side itself has the same split?

I also wonder about the split across authors of videos I see. ISTM, given that Premium is a fixed price subscription, that watching _more_ videos decreases the fraction that I send to a particular author. I'm not sure what incentives it creates (looking at first order effects, it would seem to me that YT is incentivized to decrease the amount of videos Premium subscribers watch; that's probably not true for PR reasons if no other, so my naive views of incentives here would probably be wrong), but intuitively it feels very weird.

@sgf

Hm~ I don't know of the exact conversation you've had, and you've summarized your opinion here very briefly, so what I say might be obvious/beside the point/unsurprising.

The non-argument-based methods usually give less (or even no) comparative advantage to true claims over false claims. The more trusted and popular they become in a given group of people, all else being equal that group would usually become worse at agreeing on true statements (and individuals in that group are likely to be worse at distinguishing truth from falsity individually).

Now, one might have different reactions to that. One of them is to never use non-argument-based methods, because if one uses them to argue for true things people trust conclusions provided via those methods more. Another similar one is to object to others doing that.

I don't think these approaches are obviously wrong (i.e. that the assumptions that would lead to them being sensible are self-contradictory or very obviously incompatible with how the world could look like with a different but stable culture). They might be (I'm not good at predicting what people do around forming beliefs) totally impractical, but that in itself is a nontrivial question.

@TechConnectify

Do you know what's the order of magnitude of the ratio of the revenue split?

@jonmsterling

Then I'm curious which departure from that you think makes that model an oversimplification: more lax memory models, fairness constraints on the scheduler, something else I'm not thinking of, or some combination?

@jonmsterling What do you mean by powerdomain semantics?

@quasirealsmiths Hm~ I don't get why. I often see Calvin's dad giving false explanations meant satirically in a way that (at least to me) would feel discouraging if I actually wanted to know the answer.

@eta IIRC I saw ones where every second row was localized.

@isomer it's not clear what you want to weigh with

@rotopenguin @mw1cgg @delroth

Doesn't the USB-C plug cut the signal lines first when you pull it out? If so, you don't need the plug to be able to withstand disconnecting power lines in normal operations: you could have at least one end cut off power lines internally when data (well, probably CC as opposed to the rest of data) lines go.

@dpiponi I haven't had ~any experience with wireless charging, but did experience something similar with wired charging: if charging keeps stopping and starting (and operates at low power when it actually does), a phone can easily lose more energy on all the state changes that happen in software than it gains from the charger.

That said, this happened to me only when charging a device that was on.

@Martin__Hope@sueden.social

Weisst du vielleicht, wie die geprobten gewählt sind? Ich vermute eine Stichprobe aus diese, die den Hausarzt besucht haben.

(Ich frage, weil es mir interessiert, wie die Covid-Anteil sich mit der Kräftigkeit von Symptomen verändert.)

@platypus

Would a reliable spousal alimony (however much it resembles a sparkling unicorn in realism) fix the entrapment problem (but not any others you mention downthread)?

@LukaszOlejnik

> Likely identifying a device.

I don't think it can identify an individual device, but rather the hardware revision and potentially versions of the software involved in the graphics stack.

@isomeme @xkcd

Would setting CW (vel subject) to "spoiler" also be a misuse of it?

Putting original alt text would be confusing for people who don't see images and are unfamiliar with xkcd; it's after all _not_ a good description of the image.

@_dm Do you know that the infection is indeed Covid at the point at which you need to make the decision?