@freemo
The problem is that insufficient studies have been done on the interactions between adjuvants.

Have any studies on the interactions between the aduvants in one vaccine with the antigens in another vaccine given in the same shot or at the same time EVER been done? If great effort is expended to insure the right adjuvant gets delivered with the right antigen, it follows that the same amount of effort needs to be expended studying the unintended "cross-contamination" between adjuvant-adjuvant and adjuvant-antigen combos.

You know what the largest segment of new vaccine doubters is? Physicians. They're the ones who actually see the fallout from this great human guinea pig laboratory.

All of the above is from the W.H.O. in their talks on the fact that vaccines need new marketing. THEY are the ones lamenting the complete lack of studies.

@sda @freemo sure, more studies could always be useful - but the effects of vaccines and their ingredients has been studied multiple times. It's easy for people, even smart people like physicians, to be tricked by confirmation bias, but actual studies have found negligible harm compared to the huge benefits.

@mewmew @freemo
So, you know drain cleaner A is safe. You know drain cleaner B is safe. Mix them together.

> but actual studies have found negligible harm compared to the huge benefits.

Institute of Medicine
... studies designed to examine the long-term effects of
cumulative number of vaccines or other aspects of the immunization schedule have not been conducted.

... existing research has not been designed to test the entire immunization schedule

No studies have compared the difference in health outcomes... between entirely unimmunized populations of children and fully immunized children.

@sda @mewmew @freemo

> No studies have compared the difference in health outcomes... between entirely unimmunized populations of children and fully immunized children.

Well, we could compare child mortality rate with current children vs before the various vaccines were invented. I think we can imagine the results already.

@nerdman @mewmew @freemo @sda

Holy shit, I wrote my response before I saw yours and we both said almost the exact same thing, lol

@dave @mewmew @freemo @sda

We're consistently citing what we know about science or the dogma we adhere to :).

@nerdman @mewmew @dave @freemo

Problem is... science is ALWAYS changing. The science of yesterday has an inconvenient way of becoming ridiculously obsolete.

@sda @nerdman @mewmew @freemo

Ok, but the records of children dying (or being disabled for life) from diseases like Polio, Measles, etc., don't change.

We know that vaccines work. The angle you seem to be pursuing is that there may be some negative side effects that we aren't yet aware of.

@dave @sda @mewmew @freemo

To be fair I am retarded and I did get all of my shots. Perhaps the negative effect is that we're kind of not evolving our immune systems anymore but rather we're complementing them with science.

Which is all fine and dandy until the apocalypse comes and there are no more vaccines.

@nerdman @mewmew @dave @freemo

I got all my shots as well. Unfortunately... or maybe fortunately, there was no measles vax before I had the mildly unpleasant bout with them. Same with mumps and chicken pox.

@sda @nerdman @mewmew @freemo

I'm not sure how the mechanism works, but my understanding is Chicken Pox is a weird disease where you actually want to get it as a kid, because as an adult it's much more serious.

Measles, though...measles has killed around 200 million people. That you only remember it as "mildly unpleasant" doesn't really matter. It is potentially fatal.

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@dave @nerdman @mewmew @freemo

Crossing the street is potentially fatal. Everyone I knew had the measles. Nobody I knew died from them.
Small sample, but still. Measles were not as fatal as people want to paint them.

@sda

And yet far far less dangerous than the vaccine. Measles can and does often do long term damage you may not even be aware of.

@dave @nerdman @mewmew

@sda @dave @mewmew @freemo

Oh shit this reminds me the South Park episode where the parents make the kids catch the measles from each other, one of them gets sick and needs a transplant or something, and in revenge the kids give their parents herpes by getting a prostitute to rub theiir underwear against her crotch.

Oh, South Park. How do I love thee.
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