~b @torresjrjr@qoto.org

@tychosoft@fosstodon.org
I couldn't say personally. I haven't used Zig. I know both lanugages occupy a similar problem domain, but Hare's goals differ from Zig, and are more inline with being a minimal, conservative, modern update to C.

The Hare blog has written about this.
https://fosstodon.org/@hare/108222056836549904

Martian time in Hare
https://torresjrjr.com/archive/2022-08-01-hare-martian-time/

#hare #harelang

Very glad to see that, @arian. There's always room in the Fediverse. Where did you find my article?

@norbu
I would entertain some basic extended latin, along with some Greek, Cyrillic, Hiragana, Katagana... but then we'd have to draw the line somewhere, which might rub some peoples the wrong way.

I can see that enforcing ASCII is anglophone-centric. Considering all things, I think assuming English as a meta lingua franca for programming is probably the least problematic way of doing things for everyone. Consider that Hare libraries will be used by others.

@norbu
Unicode source code has an extreme amount of weird cases to deal with. Right-to-left, variable width, semanticly equivilent sequences, etc. For a serious low-level langauge which has subtle aspirations to become a lingua franca like C, I think they made a sensible choice.

If the Unicode consortium were much more conservative and sensible, it might have been possible.

No emoji variables, sorry Javascripturds.

Adios, @captainepoch
Thank you for everything.

@spritelyinst@octodon.social
Thank you for writing this, @cwebber@octodon.social! I've been dying for a "middle-of-the-road introduction" to scheme which doesn't overwhelm or underdeliver. I now finally have the capacity to go and read projects written in lisp, understand their gist, and get my hands dirty and learn.

@rmathew
https://fosstodon.org/@hare/108518190690671917

Hi @humanetech@mastodon.social :)

I just want to clarify to onlookers that the hare-activity library is purely aspirational at the moment.

But thank you anyway. We dare to dream.

My list of outlined infant #hare programs and libraries
https://sr.ht/~torresjrjr/hare-projects/sources

I may not have enough effective time to complete and perfect these ideas myself, but I'm posting in the hopes others can carry the torch.

Some rationale for the list:

The "darian" and "mayan" libraries if successful will prove that the stdlib design choices for timekeeping, including Hare's timescales and timezones, are robust and expandable as advertised. Also, Martian time is cool.

The "ninefmt" library will provide a friendlier alternative to the stdlib's POSIX subset of strftime "%Y-%m-%d" specifiers. plan9front's tmdate(2) defines a nice "YYYY MM DD" syntax.

The "jsonld" and "activity" libraries will form the bedrock for an eventual #activitypub Fediverse server. I'd love to see another interoperable contender written in Hare. Something modular and simple.

The "chess" library will allow Hare to prove itself as a robust language for complex algorithms and large data. Imagine Deep Blue in Hare, or another #floss lichess.org implementation.
https://chessprogramming.org/

Speaking of science, maybe there should be science/physics-related library. Any ideas?

The "ed" (and "vi") utilities will allows Hare devs to code in their own dogfood. I also have my sights on sam/acme, and structural regular expressions in particular:
http://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/structural_regexps/

Reach out if interested.