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Wij hebben wel meer ondersteuning in onze vrijheid. We hoeven geen miljonairs te zijn om een goede opleiding en gezondheid te hebben. Daarin zijn zij vrij om te gaan creperen in armoe en gezondsheidproblemen.

Je bent daar eigenlijk echt vrij als je rijk bent, maar de 'Amerikaanse Droom' komt maar heel weinig voor tegenwoordig. Ze blijven er steeds naar refereren, maar kennen nog grotere armoe dan wij.

@freemo @mur2501

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Actually on those aspects I agree with you... well partly... Dutch healthcare is just as bad as american just in a different way. Neither system is good. But in terms of the poor having some level of access the dutch are better. The problem is for the middle class who can afford healthcare int he USA, well the USA has the upper edge in that regard (having expiernced both).

But in terms of education I agree the dutch laws are more ideal. I am a big supporter of free education for all.

So yea my original assertion I feel holds true, a combination of both worlds is ideal and each is more free in different ways.

Americans have superior freedoms WRT:

* Guns
* Speech
* middle class and up access to healthcare (pre-obamacare at least)

Dutch have superior freedoms WRT:

* Access to education
* poor's access to healthcare

@dankmaximus @mur2501

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