My point of view about the situation in (/cc @admitsWrongIfProven):

“The gouvernment that brought you good things for the people”

Err… sure. What government does not bring at least some “good things for the people”?

“I heard nothing negative about them in terms of caring for the people”

Not sure I understand. One does not need to hear anything specific to know that in a democracy of ~48M people millions of voters think that the government is not “caring for the people” properly, much, or at all.

In this case: I think this government “didn’t care” much for the youth (transfers of wealth from younger generations to boomers in the form of public pensions, massive public debt and a two-tier job market), for men (a divisive strand of feminism), for women (ditto, cf trans issues), for immigrants (several scandals about that), for entrepreneurs and freelancers (populist rhetoric against wealth and corporations), for the middle class (tax hikes), for students (our PISA scores are shameful), for the Sahrawis (they abandoned them to appease Morocco), or for truth and science (too many examples to cite).

“The only violence i heard of is […] not the catalans”

There has been very little violence from any side, fortunately. (But lots of hatred.)

The crimes that will be erased now are mostly non-violent ones: rebellion, sedition and misuse of public funds.

“An amnesty seems a good idea to keep the peace”

Roughly half of the population here disagrees. Recent History has proven otherwise: the more that institutions have appeased the separatists and made concessions to them, the more radical and defiant they grew.

“Fascists will never keep peace”

I agree. Those whose crimes will be erased, those who signed the deal with , are fascists. As you say, they will never keep peace. For years they have been trying to silence dissenters, banning certain ideas, appealing to nativist ideas, encouraging hatred towards other Spanish regions, attacking minorities and the individual, expecting groupthink, bending the facts and distorting History, and glorifying the idea of a nation.

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@tripu Hmm, so the gouvernment that brought you good things for the people (like menstruation is recognized as a reason to not work) is still in pl...

@tripu It seems a lot is going on that i do not see in my german bubble. It is generally sad that most non-inland news are dominated by US topics.

Thank you for indulging me, a bit of seeing beyond one’s nose is helpful.

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Of course. We all live in bubbles. I am no less ignorant about what goes on in Germany, or in Thailand. We are all quite UK- and US-centric, I guess.

This is my opinion. You’ll find plenty of Spaniards who will give you the exact opposite.

What can I say.

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