Serious question. Did they find any evidence yet in all the trials and stuff going on that clearly shows intentionally want the capitol riot?

When it happened I saw little clear evidence it was intentional but at the same time based on his behavior and personality I totally would expect it was intentional and somewhere at some point there might have been a record of him saying he wanted it.... If there is any actual evidence I'd love to see it if anyone has any as I havent been following as closely as I should.

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@freemo the thing is, we live in a time where two people can see the exact same thing, read the exact same words, and come away with exactly opposite ideas about what they just saw or read.

So in that sort of environment... the answer to your question depends on who you ask.

It's just the state of society, that we can look at the same weather report and disagree about whether it's raining or not.

@volkris Very true of course... but i care less about if there was evidence you may disagree with or find less damning and more about hearing about what evidence, questionable or otherwise, that may have came up that is less speculative.

@freemo Yeah, asking people to put their evidence on their table sounds like a pretty good idea.

But it does get frustrating when you ask if there has been evidence, and people were reply that there absolutely has, and what they present isn't evidence at all, and you point that out, and they say it is, and at that point there's nowhere else to go with it.

It's raining outside!
What's your evidence?
Well here's a bucket full of water from the rain!
...That bucket is empty.
No it's full of rain! Look at all this water in it!

Siiiigh

I refer to it as the book club theory. We all showed up to the book club, and we all read books with the same title, but the plot lines were different in different people's copies, so it's pretty darn hard to discuss the book.

@volkris @freemo

this is where getting people who disagree etc to sit together and discuss things for a long time, perhaps repeatedly, would really help. maybe they truly see things differently, or maybe they are lying. the rest of us listening can best determine that, if these kinds of conversations would happen. but we don't expect/demand that. we could. we now have the perfect technology to handle this, but there's less of it. weird.

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