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@gunchleoc

Ha! Thanks, this will be interesting to read.

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US Politics of dippy 

@helplessduck

Well appeals aren't generally about re-examining evidence and testimony themselves, so often enough declining to engage in that is part of shooting for a successful appeal.

Appeals are about processes not being followed, not about reopening the case to re-examine evidence.

@BenjaminHCCarr

It's a double edged sword, though: deference to an administration that's not interested in the climate fight also undermines the fight.

Really this should be about making Congress fix broken laws.

@wjmaggos

You would run into privacy problems since all Fediverse content is public so there's no way for a person to communicate with customer service without their business being broadcast.

@atomicpoet

@JasonPerseus

But you're making a factual statement that's the key here: we don't know if she is derelict in her duty to represent her constituents because we don't know what her constituents think of the job she is doing.

It's up to them, not us, to judge whether she is being derelict under the design of the US government.

We don't have a parliamentary system in the US. The role of parties was intentionally minimized in the design of the system.

Under the representative system that we have, it's up to them to decide what good representation consists of.

@Bethanyrberger

The problem with that argument is that the Constitution itself assigns to Congress authority over borrowing, which is probably a pretty good idea since you want to have national buy-in before obligating generations of citizens to paying back debts.

So not only is the debt ceiling constitutional, it's actually constitutionally mandated.

The president has to pay the debt. He really needs to stop threatening not to do so.

All of this drama and sensationalist political grandstanding is a distraction from the simple fact that the president has to order the Treasury to pay those debts.

@DebPearlstein

Me, I don't think it should be approached as a 1st Amendment issue but more like a 5th Amendment violation.

If I want to run TikTok on my computer or my phone or whatever, it's my property, and it's a violation of my property for the feds to prevent me from using that property in the way I see fit.

I really think we have let 5th Amendment protections go way too dormant in this country.

@blamellors

This is exactly correct, and it's why so much of the dramatic talk around the debt ceiling is so sensationalized and misplaced.

The president must pay these debts. All of his threats of default are just playing it up for the cameras, political theater, that far too many of us are buying into.

It would be illegal and unconstitutional for the president not to pay these debts. It would be impeachable for him to refuse this constitutional requirement.

And yet day after day this administration is out there threatening to do exactly that to try to gain more power to borrow.

@RememberUsAlways

Well the Constitution assigns to Congress authority to borrow on the credit of the US because such borrowing has generational implications.

It's a really big deal to put the entire country in debt, so Congress has that authority to make sure the people are agreeing to it.

The debt ceiling is merely the term we use for the amount that Congress has agreed to borrow.

Not only is it constitutional, but it is constitutionally mandated.

The Treasury's accounting statements show that it will have enough money to pay the debts regardless of whether the president gets his request for more power to borrow, so he needs to get to it and knock off these threats.

@JasonPerseus

I really don't care about parties.
The point of the representative body that is the Senate is for constituents to have their interests represented, so if the constituents are happy then she's doing her job.

I mean I don't like her, but that's between her and her constituents in the US system of government.

To put it another way, if she is screwing over her party like you say, but her constituents like that, well then that's how that's supposed to work. Representation over party.

@JasonPerseus

Well what options do her constituents have? Can they recall her? If so why haven't they?

It could be that she is still in office because her constituents support her and want her there.

Ah democracy.

US Pol, Missouri, Abortion, Student Loans, Lost Revenue, SCOTUS 

@seanbala

Well the legal posture / procedure is quite different in these two cases.

This one is a budgetary estimate provided for its own sake, while the student loan case involves states trying to establish standing for the sake of acquiring access to the courts to pursue a different challenge.

In other words, it's not because of the state revenue that the student loan program would be defeated. The revenue only comes up as states request permission to even show that the program is illegal.

@Grimulon

"Pay for tax cuts" is always a bizarre phrase.

Like, it costs me money NOT to take some of your income?

@GottaLaff

But they're the Dems in Congress that are actually moving against the Supreme Court and calling for more interference in the other branch.

I don't hear Republicans making these demands of the judiciary.

The letter here details that.

@emptywheel

@DemocracyMattersALot

If he thinks Thomas has violated laws, then let's have the trial and find out whether he's actually guilty or not.

Before then, this is just prosecution without defense, a lot of accusations from people with bad track records of false accusations.

@GottaLaff

Well, it's not really up to him, as the representatives we sent to Congress are unlikely to vote for extending that power to borrow.

Yay democracy.

@TonyStark

The recent mifepristone issue is a matter of FDA compliance with general federal regulation of drug approvals, nothing about abortion in particular, and not even about anything involving politics.

The FDA stood in violation of general statute that wasn't focused on abortion. The executive branch didn't address the complaint. A legal mess ensued.

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