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@jackiegardina

Well anyway, here's the docket for the case directly from the Supreme Court, that you can read through with your own eyes to see where you're getting the facts a bit wrong.

I think it's important to fact check stuff like this especially to find out that you can't trust whomever seems to have been telling the misleading stories about the case.

supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?f

@MisuseCase so perhaps that gets into people believing false information about government giving false information about nuclear safety because others actors, whether honest or dishonest, made those false claims.

Or to rephrase the original point, people don't believe the official line about the safety of the water because they *perceive* that governments have routinely lied.

Insert that word and the original post might stand.

@lauren

@LizDylan

Robert Reich is misleading the public, as usual.

We don't need to resort to shadowy conspiracy theories to figure out this result. The Court itself points out that it was deferring to the laws passed by our elected officials.

This isn't a story about Harlan Crow. This is a story about a bunch of elected officials that we really need to stop reelecting.

We disempower ourselves when we overlook our own electoral voice to instead believe Reich's theme.

Here's the ruling.

supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pd

@Blort

FWIW the protocol seems to embrace things like groups, specifically saying that an entity in the system doesn't have to be an individual. So the underlying technology is already ready for groups.

I'd say the bigger issue is one of UI, how to display groups in a way that users will understand that they're engaging with a group, and how to avoid things like the notorious accidental reply-all in email.

That's a tricky problem to solve, so I hope it's solved sooner rather than later, then clients can move forward implementing the functionality in a better way.

I'm not surprised to hear a report like this...

Lauren Weinstein  
Every so often I take a serious look at the code running my #Mastodon instance and I start to get a headache so I stop looking at it.

@janl

Well, the W3C might know a thing or two if you'd like some light weekend reading on the topic.

w3.org/TR/activitypub/#delete-

But sure, have a nice weekend.

@freemo

So it's an advantage that becomes vanishingly small as the one doing the cutting follows their incentive to make the difference also vanishingly small.

And that's enough to make the solution practically, if not ideally, very useful.

@jackiegardina

Right, because I'm viewing this based on the factual record, that's public record in courts' dockets, regardless of my personal preferences or outcomes.

When there's a problem to fix it's critical to correctly identify the problem, and when courts like SCOTUS are involved, the facts of the process are especially crucial.

So you're glossing over critical facts in what you're saying, getting the facts wrong, and that's no minor detail.

Let's say, for example, that you think a judge here was so in error that they need to be removed from office. Yes, that would be one way of addressing the problem BUT the it's critical to know which judge to target.

It is no minor detail that you're getting the facts of the case wrong even as you're focusing on eventual outcomes.

@notabird @georgelakoff

Well my first reply is that, for better or worse, keep in mind that Trump started his bid for presidency kind of a long time ago now. Time flies.

But really I would say that the only reason he ever managed to become president was due to all the garbage that was coming out of both parties for decades.

I'm not talking about the last few years. It's been generations of really trash messaging that set the stage for all of this.

It's not the last few years. We've had a generation of really garbage journalism really screwing over the country with crappy reporting.

@janl

But that's no different from any other internet activity.

I mean here on Mastodon / Fediverse there are no real deletions either.

Yeah, you can send out a deletion request, but it's all voluntary, exactly the same as IPFS.

Welcome to the internet.

Or I guess, welcome to reality. From the first publication of a newspaper there has never been real deletion. Anything you put out there can stay around as long as anybody who wants to keep it.

@notabird @georgelakoff

Woooow What in the world are you two talking about?

Republicans are better at messaging? The party that can't seem to break through left-leaning media outlets, can't seem to provide any balance as folks like Donald Trump vomit ridiculous statements left and right that cannot possibly make any sense to any rational listener?

No, Republicans are awful at messaging. It's just utter nonsense coming from them.

The problem is that even if Democrats can message a fantastic theory of the world, a lot of us listeners notice for ourselves that their theories just don't comport with the realities that we experience for ourselves.

You can't blame Republicans for that. They are garbage, but at the least they aren't telling us these stories that we can see with our own eyes aren't true.

@freemo which means that the person cutting has every interest to make sure both pieces are the same size!

@janl nah, because if the joke is bad nobody is going to request it and so it will sit on a single node and not be distributed.

@FroehlichMarcel

I mean, that's just monetization with more steps...

@uspolitics

Siiiiiiigh.

It'll be like a nonstop Trump campaign that he doesn't even have to tap into his bank accounts to pay for.

@eoinoneill

Just be aware that THIS platform also allows that, even in less detectable or policeable ways.

@encthenet

An ax I grind: IPFS isn't about files but about data, whether you end up wanting to download that data as a file or not.

At its core IPFS doesn't store files. It's just that, you can request data in a file format from the system, but that really gives up so much power that the system otherwise offers trough IPLD and such.

@janl

Not in IPFS!

In IPFS every joke effectively gets its own number, with no two jokes ending up with the same one, so no clogging.

@encthenet

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