volkris @volkris@qoto.org
Since I guess everything is political these days, I'll identify as extremely liberal but without a home in US politics.
Mainly, there's so much misinformation out there that people in society have trouble even organizing into coherent political groupings. So I'd rather not talk about politics but instead focus on information and education. Nothing else matters until the bedrock of fact is buttressed.
But... people are always going to be wrong on the internet, as the saying goes.
So: Old man yells at clouds is a famous joke from The Simpsons, and it probably fairly describes what we do when venting on social media.
Just speaking into the void, since I figure it's an exercise in futility to conduct discussions on these platforms.
Joined Dec 2022
No, that's not the precedent.
Presidents are absolutely not above the law. It's just that they don't really prosecute themselves, so other agencies at other times have to do it.
For example, Congress can hold presidents accountable for illegal behavior right away, and state prosecutors can go after them in civil court at any point. Clinton is the key example of that.
Presidents are never above the law. The tricky bit is going to the correct one to hold them accountable.
@jaggedrobotpubes mainstream Republicans have actively and vociferously rejected project 2025...
@sir_rob that is incorrect.
Under normal procedure cabinet positions require Senate confirmation.
People have been talking about loopholes, but meh, in general confirmation is needed.
@GluedToTheScreen this comes across as the guy finding an exit path to get out of the investigations.
The confirmation step doesn't really matter, he just wants to derail the house investigations into his background, so regardless of whether he is confirmed, he's out.
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@chris_spackman I mean, I got that impression from Harris herself.
@charvaka What examples can you give?
Honestly, this sounds like a way to get rid of the guy so he's not a thorn in the legislative process anymore.
@mhjohnson I don't think that's it.
Harris's campaign absolutely melted down in the last 2 weeks, on its own accord. It could have kept going with whether it was going with, but it didn't, it just turned into a large bowl of jello.
I think that's where it went wrong.
It was a close race the whole time, and Harris just never had it in her to either win decisively... or it turns out cross the finish line.
Whatever talking about Elon always start by remembering that he is a troll.
How did he know? Why in the world do you think he knew? Why assume that? There's a very large chance that he was just trolling everybody, because that is the persona that he wears these days.
But then, you're giving him the attention with this post that he wants.
So I guess it worked.
@cspcypher just don't forget that fake government departments are fake, they can't hurt you.
They just play pretend.
Skimming this article, it strikes me as a pretty good survey of how the state of popular politics in the US ended in a #Trump election.
It captures #Democrats being out of touch and #Republicans being fed up and #Harris running a bad campaign, one that really channeled that out-of-touch-ness.
Or, at least, this confirms my baises :) reflects my perception on the whole thing.
But those themes seem to be repeated over and over through quote after quote.
‘Democrats presented no alternative’: US voters on Trump’s win and where Harris went wrong https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/12/voter-re...
@ginaintheburg That's not quite what happened.
In NLRB v Canning the SCOTUS didn't limit the president's power to make recess appointments but rather it pointed out that Obama had made recess appointments without a recess.
Big difference.
Trump isn't wanting to break a rule here. Exactly the opposite: he's talking about applying the rule correctly.
@ginaintheburg That's not quite what happened.
In NLRB v Canning the SCOTUS didn't limit the president's power to make recess appointments but rather it pointed out that Obama had made recess appointments without a recess.
Big difference.
Trump isn't wanting to break a rule here. Exactly the opposite: he's talking about applying the rule correctly.
@specwill @specwill sounds like you're missing that Chevron allowed agencies to do harm without legislative approval.
This kind of deference allowed one administration to undo the good of the past administration, it allowed one administration to do a bunch of harm to undo the good that the last administration did.
And no, it absolutely does not mean that every single fiddly little thing needs to be legislated. It just means that legislatures have to give permission to regulate those fiddly things, but once the permission is given, go for it.
It sounds like whoever you're listening to on this topic has been misleading you.
@moira Elon Musk is Trump's most important ally? What are you talking about?
And even if he was, which is a nutty thing to say, even if he was the most important ally, he's also well known for being an utter troll, so why in the world would you take anything he says seriously?
@adrianfellhauer@sueden.social
Marie Antoinette isn't known for not being part of the working class.
She's known for being out of touch with reality.
And on that note, the rest of your comment seems really out of touch with reality as well. I don't know who's been feeding you this stuff, but abolish democracy? Ministers? I think you're confusing some fiction with reality.
Or more likely, you're just putting your faith in the wrong people and they are telling you things that are just nutty.
@Alteon examples?
I'm personally not on the Trump side, but I see them literally advocating acceptance and love for minorities, encouragement of rights for women, and the importance of Democracy, literally Every. Single. Day.
Sounds like you've been lied to.
I'm sorry for that.
@realcaseyrollins
@the5thColumnist but the US operates under a completely different governmental structure from Canada.
They're not very comparable.
@sj_zero YES!
I've been having those Marie Antoinette vibes from the left for years, but I forgot about it.
Every time Harris would talk about some promise but have no way to actually get there, it was, Let them eat cake. Why not?
@adrianfellhauer@sueden.social
more important than compromising vs uncompromising, they've failed to engage with the broader public to make their case.
That's the real lesson here, captured by Harris missing chance after chance to make a solid argument for her perspective.
Democrats acted like they could just be right and waltz into office. That's just not how democracy works, though.
They need to engage with those outside their spheres. They haven't been doing that.
@MusiqueNow firstly, it's possible because the Democratic Party botched the election by nominating such an obviously flawed candidate. Harris should have never been the nominee.
Ok, so now what? First, let's never forgive the Party for their screw up. They need to be held accountable.
But what can be done now? There actually is something: 14th Amendment time. NOW is the time for Congress to judge whether Trump is eligible based on the insurrection clause.
The earlier efforts failed in court because that wasn't the right venue. It never was.
But THIS IS.
...not that enough of the country is aware of how this works, so the handle won't be pulled.
Since I guess everything is political these days, I'll identify as extremely liberal but without a home in US politics.
Mainly, there's so much misinformation out there that people in society have trouble even organizing into coherent political groupings. So I'd rather not talk about politics but instead focus on information and education. Nothing else matters until the bedrock of fact is buttressed.
But... people are always going to be wrong on the internet, as the saying goes.
So: Old man yells at clouds is a famous joke from The Simpsons, and it probably fairly describes what we do when venting on social media.
Just speaking into the void, since I figure it's an exercise in futility to conduct discussions on these platforms.
Joined Dec 2022
