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@the5thColumnist but that's just political with more steps.

And there are good reasons not to turn the appointments to that vital Court over to an unaccountable, pseudogovernmental, undemocratic organization.

The current process as designed is actually pretty good. It's just that we don't really execute all of the design features, as most of the country doesn't seem to know how it works, so they don't hold the functionaries accountable for doing it right.

Let's try better civics education first.

@504DR yeah, when turned away from hard news and included opinion and commentary in every segment it became a laughing stock.

Eventually I had to stop listening because I had other things to do, and their programming was just so oblivious that its value as comedy wasn't worth the time.

I really hope some day they get back to being hard news.

@OGjester

@hankg

Keep in mind that the reason it doesn't penetrate is because of the current phenomenon wherein people are living in completely different realities with different sets of facts.

It's easy to dismiss what you're saying as just nutty ravings when it doesn't match the facts that the listener knows to be true.

Until that changes, until we get things like reform of journalism to establish factual authority, the country is sort of stuck.

And as an aside, the Democratic Party missed this, and arguably it contributed to their loss.

@isaackuo

@fluxed it's important to highlight "perfect legality."

We should call out for not only botching this election, but also not reforming those laws while they had the chance.

It's something I, for one, have been screaming about for years: If you don't like what a like president might do with his legal authorities, then fix the laws to make sure he wouldn't have those authorities!

Well, if we start yelling about that now and establish it as something we really want done, maybe down the road we can actually have those needed reforms from a party that's not so utterly aloof.

@tx_tartan

Firstly, I doubt Harris can get enough senators, even Democratic senators, to confirm her nomination.

Secondly, wrt immunity, the Supreme Court put limits on the president's ability to prosecute, which would tend to prevent Harris from doing that, not the other way around.

@MusiqueNow

The reason Americans aren't pushing Alito and Thomas out is because the accusations aren't generally regarded as particularly substantial.

Yes, in certain circles they represent scandals that would overwhelm an official, but that's not the widespread view.

Many regard them as overblown or outright fabricated.

@evewrites but the DNC did do this.

The DNC chose Harris without consulting us through a democratic process, and she was obviously, obviously a bad candidate. A lot of us were yelling that from the beginning. We were begging the DNC not to choose her because she was going to be a bad candidate.

The DNC powers chose her anyway.

And we should not let those powerful people off the hook.

Yes, the DNC did this. I don't know why you're trying to say they didn't.

I honestly think there is something wrong with

Listening to her giving her concession speech she honestly doesn't sound like she cares at all that she lost. She doesn't seem to be invested in this at all. It's kind of sociopathological.

I think that's part of why she lost, but seriously, what's wrong with this?

youtube.com/live/WckEFzGku0Q?s

@solarbird Well that's not true at all.

Harris was a terrible candidate, she was an authoritarian promising openly to override the democratic process If she didn't get her way from the people, and the people said that wasn't cool.

Harris couldn't explain how she would rule, she just insisted that she would rule, and a lot of people were not okay with that. Lord knows I wasn't.

The Democratic Party nominated Harris without talking to all of us, they nominated an authoritarian that we are not on board with, and so the party needs to be held accountable for this terrible mistake.

But it's wrong to say that the US voted for a fundamentalist authoritarian. No. It just voted against an authoritarian who had no business anywhere near the Oval Office, that should never have been nominated in the first place.

I have no idea what to do now 

@moira you have it backwards, though.

The problem was that Harris was promising to be an authoritarian leader, and Americans rejected that.

@SheepOverboard@mastodon.au Oh they're reading traditional media all right. They just see that traditional media is telling them lies, gaslighting them.

And that's the problem with traditional media these days.

Traditional media tells us stuff that is so quickly debunked, and so traditional media should really shape up because that's not a good situation.

@HeavenlyPossum Well that's not true at all.

It's the exact opposite.

Ownership is a right not to be interfered with. Ownership only comes up when somebody is trying to interfere with your dictate over some property. You're not interfering with them, they are interfering with you.

That is the fundamental aspect of ownership.

@CheapPontoon @slowenough @True_Heresy @magitweeter @dagb

@slowenough

Sounds like it's a semantic thing. An issue of definition.

What is ownership? I would say that ownership is defined as the ability to direct a resource. If you own an apple, that means that you can dictate whether that apple goes into apple cider or an apple pie. That is the definition of ownership that I think is the common understanding.

And so the definition of management has a strong overlap with it. The only difference might come down to the authority being delegated. Technically you might not be the owner but practically the owner has granted you effective ownership.

So anyway, sounds like you're getting lost in definition.

@HeavenlyPossum @CheapPontoon @dagb @True_Heresy

@moira The key is, presidents simply don't have authority to do a lot of this stuff.

And in the examples where they do have such authority we need to learn the lesson of, we really need to push legislatures to take that authority away.

It was always a mistake to give presidents too much authority, and neither Trump nor Harris can do a lot of the things that they are promising.

But yeah, let's keep firmly in mind that this is why we don't give presidents that kind of authority, and we need to not give them more authority, and we need to take it back.

@HeavenlyPossum thinking your mind of anything you consider productive.

Chances are it involved some resource that somebody owned.

YES ownership is productive. Ownership directs resources toward productive uses where otherwise they would be lost in the chaos of uncertainty as to where they would go.

It's just economically illiterate to say that ownership is not productive.

@True_Heresy @CheapPontoon @dagb

@drrjv muskbach Twitter because he's a troll. He bought it as an act of trolling everybody. He wanted to get attention, and the more you bring him up, the more he proves successful in that.

He thinks that's funny. That's how trolls work.

@peterbutler

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