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@mempko

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. (To borrow the line)

Banks don't cause growth. At most, banks support growth as a necessary but not sufficient actor in the environment.

States don't have to run balanced budgets. And we see in fact that they do issue bonds, they do technically run non-balanced budgets on a cash flow basis all the time. However, states do voluntarily adopt policies whereby they balance their budgets because that is a good thing.

What's good for states might very well be good for the federal government as well.

It's merely the idea that anytime a politician wants to spend money he needs to justify that spending against the cost.

One way or another, we do all pay that cost.

@emanuele

Yeah, and I get that, and I even personally do the exact same thing. I'm like you with that.

But other people use the platform differently, and I understand them as well.

A lot of people are really focused on sort of branching out and building a web of content on social media. I'm not, but I appreciate that other people are, and those numbers are useful for them as they shape their experiences here.

@denny

Ha, or at least social media, where people aren't always serious.

I know, it just always grates on me when I hear people who seriously believe that stuff, who really don't understand the field of economics.

Carry on! :)

@robinbrenizer

Yeah, that's totally what he intended when he demanded expanded power to borrow and threatened default if he didn't get his way, then flatly said he wouldn't negotiate, then caved and did.

I just don't believe it was all part of a bigger plan for him to sacrifice himself for the sake of bipartisanship.

@denny

What in the world economist do you listen to who says humans only value things monetarily?

Literally all of the economists I've ever heard from are emphatic that humans value things aside from monetarily.

@dustcircle

It's not up to Biden, though.
The student loan forgiveness is already illegal since Congress included those loan payments as part of the appropriations law passed last Congress (and so many congresses before).

Students owe money to the US government. The president can no more forgive than than he can simply not collect taxes one year.

@Nonya_Bidniss

US Senator promotes a conspiracy theory instead of doing his job to fix the laws.

We really need to be pushing back against this stuff to hold powerful senators accountable, to vote them out, to get the legal reforms that the country desperately needs.

@DLeeT

Keep in mind that many conservatives believe the work requirements are mainly about getting people into the workforce, not about saving money, so this might not matter to them.

@nm

Or, you know, don't break other peoples' things, especially when you need them to agree to your terms?

@w7voa

@GAPoliticalJunkie

Context: Grassley was talking about making sure the FBI properly and fairly investigated allegations, whether they were true, even if they turned out to be false.

It was a positive statement, calling on the FBI to be fair, even if the outcome was favorable for Biden.

Unlike this out of context snippet of a quote.

@GossiTheDog

For anyone who comes across this and wants to check the standard, counts boosts as the announce action.

w3.org/TR/activitypub/#announc

@murshedz

Extreme right wing? Sotomayor and Kagan agreed with the decision!

When the liberals on the bench are backing the decision but you still hear the decision described as extreme right wing you can see how utterly disconnected from reality all of this bashing of the has become.

It's a real lesson for people not to believe the rhetoric they're being exposed to. So much of it is outright, unabashedly false.

Here's the decision. Read it for yourself. And then if anyone tells you things that run counter to what you've read yourself, you know not to trust those people in the future.

supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pd

@devans143

That's exactly it. The procedures and laws ARE being used here, and the union tried to have those halted.

SCOTUS said nope, those laws and procedures still stand.

@murshedz @takebackthecourt

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@jf_718

But they both voted for the Consolidated Appropriations Act that set the stage for this.

Had they not passed that, this wouldn't have even been an issue, and many believe it was part of a botched strategy to set up such a showdown.

clerk.house.gov/Votes/2022549

@vida_latina

I mean, or maybe he simply follows the reasoning that he spells out publicly year after year in the opinions released by the Supreme Court?

This stuff strikes me as trying really hard for sensationalist drama, that undermines the Supreme Court, instead of simply looking at the straightforward explanation.

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@mnutty

No, I don't know who you have been listening to, but that's just not correct.

The current dispute is over the borrowing limit, which has nothing to do with the budget cap. The budget cut was set in legislation passed by the last Congress and signed by the president already.

And you can see that this is not about obligations since the deal worked out with Biden rescinds spending authority. If it was about obligations then that couldn't happen. The deal they worked out debunks the idea that this is about obligations.

@cathyginter@universeodon.com

Jesus, is Jeffries unaware that they were Democrats who voted for this situation in the first place when they passed the Consolidated Appropriations Act, and then the executive branch threatening default?

Does he not know basic civics about how the federal government works?

Or is he just counting on his audience not knowing?

@ErikOfErik

What? Democrats were the hostagetakers here.

It was their Consolidated Appropriations Act, that they passed against Republican opposition, and Biden's spending, that put the country into this position.

Republicans voted a way out of the mess they made, the hostage situation they faced.

Key phrase: "165 Democrats - more than the 149 Republicans who voted for it - backed the measure and pushed it through"

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