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@Threadbane

I love how you are still tearing down instead of building up, encouraging teachers to find other lines of work instead of teaching students when you don't personally approve of their preferences.

Again it comes back to, well it sucks for those students who lose out on education from those teachers, but screw 'em, yeah?

They aren't the group that you personally favor, so you're happy to let that group lose out on education.

@vy

@textualdeviance

So firstly, it's really relevant that you make this distinction since so many, including legal people involved in the case, muddle that distinction kind of going both ways with it.

But directly to the point, that was a legal strategy provided for by statute and by precedent.

Even if it was boneheaded, it was not fraudulent as it was a legal way of engaging with the laws that had been passed to govern the January election.

@georgetakei

@Craktok

Well it's definitely different.

It's kind of like the family member who really hopes you (I don't mean you obviously I just mean the general you) can get your act together someday, and really disagrees with who you are today, and really thinks you are on the wrong path, maybe even really hopes you find Jesus, but because you are family they will stand beside you and do their best to help you be a better person even as you are a clear and utter mess today.

So many Trump supporters flat out say the guy is a ridiculously flawed human and they really hope he improves at some point.

So it's tricky to describe them as blinkered. It's just a different weighing of how to engage with other humans.

@mastodonmigration @GottaLaff

@GBJames

Absolutely.
So there are downsides to all such mechanical contraptions, and we shouldn't pretend any are perfect, suggesting that it's merely nonsense in the media.

Although the simplicity of fuel over battery storage does turn up here with simpler measurement of remaining range and ease of emergency refueling.

But yep, no perfect option, just imperfect options each each with tradeoffs.

@takeitev

@manton

Absolutely, I don't expect anyone to understand ActivityPub :)

But I DO think UI designers, folks at the Mastodon level, need to make sure users know that anything they send over DM carries no privacy guarantee.

They do make some efforts in the interface to convey that, but I don't think they do enough, considering how often I interact with users who don't aren't aware of this factor.

@idoubtit

No, a TON of people are still using Twitter to connect.

In fact, I know people who have joined it recently.

If people really are so alienated from Twitter and are leaving, then the transition is already happening and there's no reason for government to put a finger on the scale by blocking their use of it.

No, the public still uses Twitter, even if a lot of people especially on this platform represent a subset of folks who don't.

@Threadbane

What about the students who would have been better served by those options, and the teachers would would have preferred to teach in those places?

Seems like a case of cutting off the nose to spite the face.

@vy

@takeitev

My personal experience with EVs involves being stranded in the middle of nowhere as charge ran out way, way before we got to the range we were supposed to get, without a charging station anywhere nearby.

And the roadside assistance that was supposed to arrive in 90 minutes took five hours to actually show up.

I'm glad you had problem free experiences, but there are definitely a lot of people out there who personally experienced huge problems.

@idoubtit

The problem is that having US governmental institutions leave disconnects them from the public that they're supposed to be responsive to, all the people who still use Twitter to support their window to the world.

It's one thing to encourage more communication through other platforms, but this would encourage less.

It's one of those cases of building up instead of tearing down.

@manton

I always grind the ax that I really want / users to be informed about how insecure this whole system is from its foundation.

DMs is a big element of that.

You mention messaging that isn't encrypted, but in this system the security goes the other way: not only is it unencrypted but it's basically just another public post with the suggested audience of a single person.

I really hope users realize that DMs have zero guarantee of privacy.

@georgetakei

No, you misunderstand his argument.

Firstly, it wasn't a question of overturning the election. The election hadn't happened yet, as it was legally scheduled to happen in January.

However, the Electoral Count Act, and various state laws, did provide Trump with legal opportunities to raise concerns over procedures that states used to pick their electors going into the election. Which he botched.

So his longtime legal advisors gave him legal advise that he was too stupid and ignorant to judge properly, so he really screwed things up.

But the fact remains: he was acting on legal advise about what laws said ahead of the upcoming January election, even if he really botched things in the process.

@Craktok

it's just about different people having different values, with some people placing a VERY high value on the concept of loyalty.

Compare it to the famously high valuation that the Fast and Furious franchise puts on family :)

Many folks of that mindset don't have blinders and are well-aware of Trump's issues, but they simply value loyalty as such a lofty ideal that they would remain loyal despite those issues.
@mastodonmigration @GottaLaff

@MarvinFreeman

I counter this by pointing out that so, so, so many people are completely wrong about what has been said and what happens in Congress even though C-SPAN televises that constantly over decades of time.

No, just as the cameras of C-SPAN have not managed to help people believe about the goings-on in Congress, having cameras in the courtrooms for these trials will not help people believe the verdict.

In fact I think they would do quite the opposite, as I am certain that the cameras would encourage people involved to play for the cameras, including Trump himself to be clear, which would only undermine peoples' trust in the eventual verdict.

So I absolutely think this article is so naive, so disproven by experience, but even more, I expect the entirely opposite result.

Putting cameras in the courtroom will only encourage the division that will lead to a lot of doubt in the verdict, no matter what it is, even ignoring the prejudice of this article.

@lauren

The problem with that statement is that every single thing they do is only through the authority of Biden, in whom is vested the executive power of the federal government. It leaves him responsible for everything that's done, since it's all done under his ultimate purview.

If two of Biden's reportees are disagreeing about what Biden would have them do, then it's inescapably up to him to resolve the situation and clarify what he wants done.

It's no different from any run-of-the-mill disagreement where two employees are arguing about what the boss said to do. Well, it's up to the boss to work that out.

This strikes me as another well thought out critique of developers' choices.

And no, they're not able to just blame for these things, at least not all of them.

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@happyborg

Unfortunately, I just don't see Fediverse going in that direction.

Get ready for a nice long stay in a lifeboat :)

@mastodonmigration

I wonder if he's trying to thread a needle by saying TECHNICALLY I'm not attacking him, only making factual claims and pointing out that other people have attacked him.

You know, "Hey, I'm not saying the Dark Side is a bad thing! Maybe you think it's good! But also, look at this major magazine who said he was bad. Hey, I'm not saying it; the magazine said it!"

@Craktok

Well, that's just how a proportion of the population is, a certain personality type basically, where the person values the concept of loyalty so highly that they will force themself to remain loyal pretty much no matter what.

It's not how *I* am and it sounds like you aren't either, but yep, I've known such people, and they also show up in research on interpersonal psychology.
@mastodonmigration @GottaLaff

@internic

Perhaps UI options that allowed users to be more opt-in if that's what they wanted:

"Don't show me anything from anyone I haven't followed" or "Only show content from people I've followed + local instance" for example.

@leewalton

Firstly, I think you're just a little off about underlying technical issues.

Yes, some of the criticisms come from the underlying protocol, but so many are right there in 's choice to (for example) use or ignore metadata that's already included in streams.

I wouldn't want to let developers pass the buck. They made these UI decisions, and presumably they will stand by them.

As for the exchange about rights of reply deletion, might I suggest instead of saying "what right do you have?" saying "how can you technically assure that I've deleted?"

I believe this is what you meant.

@mjgardner @jwz

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