volkris @volkris@qoto.org
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
@skroobler The funny thing is, we elected the guys who broke the government.
We're looking at them.
@NovemberMan@mastodon.social The problem is you are probably getting mad at lies about lies.
That's just how they manipulate us.
Just the sign of the times.
@photophoregirl@octodon.social you do know the employees are paid, right?
I mean what they voted on is listed right there in the Congressional Record. It meant over 200 Democrats were willing to vote with extremists to shut down the House.
I agree this is beyond dispute. I don't know why you're disputing it.
Sounds like you're being manipulated.
The matter of weather my parents do or do not own their house has absolutely nothing to do with capitalists' feelings.
It sounds like you're trying to gaslight us by emphasizing an irrelevant conspiracy theory when the simple facts are staring us in the face.
Yes, ownership is black and white. That is why it is ownership. That is how ownership works.
Heck, would you say that your ownership of your own body is a capitalist plot? That what you want done to your own body doesn't really matter because ownership is a conspiracy by the capitalists?
No. That ownership is black and white is a good thing that we should not only recognize but celebrate!
Here's a link to the voting role where 208 Democrats voted to shut down the House.
You can look up for yourself how your own representative voted.
I honestly don't give a crap what Republicans say.
I do give a crap that Democrats voted to shut down the House.
Again, if you are happy with that, then sure keep re-electing the same people to keep causing this legislative chaos.
But this has nothing to do with Republicans. They didn't vote to shut down the house, they voted overwhelmingly not to.
It doesn't matter what Republicans did when Democrats had the numbers to join a few extremists to shut down the legislature.
@VPS_Reports@kolektiva.social Well that's a misrepresentation of what's going on in the thread...
Of course it's either/or!
That's just the nature of property and property rights. Either a person owns something or they don't. There's no gray area.
That is in fact the entire purpose of the concept of property.
Is that your plot of land? Either it is, or it's not. There's no kind of there.
@jackhutton I mean, the people who designed the structure of the US government laid that out plainly, for anyone interested in reading the federalist papers.
Well we know it's not true that McCarthy would not work with Democrats since he arranged the vote with the Democrats to pass the funding resolution.
And then the question of his ouster was explicitly triggered over his working with Democrats, so again, he absolutely did work with Democrats.
That's just right there in the public record.
At this point, Democrats have voted to shut down the House and are continuing to actively vote in ways that prevent the Republican mainstream from being able to get their candidates through, so the Republicans have no choice but to bow to the extremists.
This is 100% a situation caused by Democrats voting strategy.
@amszmidt interesting
@amszmidt I'm not trying to scp is a panacea, but it is pretty neat in what it can do, and it can copy entire directories.
What in the world?
Focusing on facts is how you're manipulated?
Well, I think we're done here.
@jackhutton but that's how the US government was intentionally designed, with subordinates answerable to the executive who was himself subject to impeachment.
It's the key part of the design of the US government that keeps it accountable to the US people.
@davenicolette@mastodon.social I mean, there is a ton of misinformation here...
@dnc those look like grease catchers on a commercial vent hood.
If that's what's happening, you only need to mess with them occasionally to clean them.
I think the most pressing and fundamental problem of the day is that people lack a practically effective means of sorting out questions of fact in the larger world. We can hardly begin to discuss ways of addressing reality if we can't agree what reality even is, after all.
The institutions that have served this role in the past have dropped the ball, so the next best solution is talking to each other, particularly to those who disagree, to sort out conflicting claims.
Unfortunately, far too many actively oppose this, leaving all opposing claims untested. It's very regressive.
So that's my hobby, striving to understanding the arguments of all sides at least because it's interesting to see how mythologies are formed but also because maybe through that process we can all have our beliefs tested.
But if nothing else, social media platforms like this are chances to vent frustrations that on so many issues both sides are obviously wrong ;)
Joined Dec 2022
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