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I'm helping one of my employees learn in . Sadly missing a repl, we just use `vardump($thing)` a ton to figure out how to get the field. Also, in PHP `== No` evaluates to `== "No"`. Seriously??

@josemanuel Fails because symbols are not strings. Why on earth does that work?

@worldsendless It's not a strict equality test, so it kinda makes sense to have No changed to 'No' to make it work. It's the same thing you'd get if you tried `0 == '0'`.

If you think about it, Common Lisp does the same. ASDF, for instance, accepts both `:system` and `"system"` as system identifiers.

Nevertheless, as @zimzat pointed out elsewhere in this thread, PHP no longer works that way in modern versions, so I'd urge you to upgrade for a better experience.

@worldsendless You're going to hit every landmine PHP has ever had.

Use the latest supported versions; `== No` is no longer possible in 8.0+ php.net/supported-versions.php 3v4l.org/I0GqJ

Ensure you're running with php.net/manual/en/errorfunc.co = E_ALL

`php -a` is the closest thing to a native repl, but there's others like github.com/ramsey/composer-rep or psysh.org/

Or step debugging with xdebug.org/docs/step_debug

phptutorial.net/ + phptherightway.com/

@worldsendless PhpStorm is worth the cost if you're doing any amount of serious coding: jetbrains.com/phpstorm/

@zimzat We are running a fair-sized operation here so changing the versions and the configs isn't done easily, and because the workforce is largely transient university student developers we cannot pay licensing fees for a specialized tool like PHP Storm; the students are on and I am on , both of which are great for working in many languages

@worldsendless

PhpStorm has paid per-seat transferable business licenses.

Upgrading the version has be a minimum requirement: PHP 7.4 and earlier is no longer supported, no matter what WordPress says their minimum is.

It sounds like you're in a bind unless you treat it like a en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordian_

@worldsendless this produces en error since PHP 8 (released 3 years ago). PHP 7 has reached EOL on november 2022.

@manal The big takeaway I'm gathering from this thread is that I need to bite the bullet and get the upgraded PHP on our server, at the risk of our WordPress farm of 100+ sites...

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