mainstream news: distrust in research is because of all these dangerous misinformationists who won’t just obey unquestioned

research community: :blobcatgoogly: haha we’re bad at our jobs actually https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/07/05/time-to-assume-that-health-research-is-fraudulent-until-proved-otherwise/

@icedquinn Isn't this why we have peer reviews. ? @freemo or am I missing somnething ?

@zleap @freemo

We have long known that peer review is ineffective at detecting fraud

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@icedquinn @freemo is this why we want better open access to science papers and journals to make the process more open. ?

@zleap no this is what independent replications were for.

@freemo

@icedquinn

Open access, open review, peer review, and replication are all necessary elements to detect fallacies (whether intentional as fraud or not). Any of them, when applies in a healthy environment, will reduce fallacies, but they arent perfect.

@zleap

@freemo @icedquinn Sounds good, It may be something I can talk to people about if / when working in a school or almost certainly at the a STEM group which I am trying to set up at the moment,

barrier to meeting at the moment is room at the library is owned by local council and we need their go ahead to use the rooms.

Sounds like something that we cna also add resources to on the discourse forum, collate links / ideas so going forward hopefully people (esp young people ) will have the right mindset, the rest of us can hold science to account especially if public funded via taxation.

Just a thought that, but i guess there are refinements within that.

@zleap

I've been wanting to start a open-access open-review journal myself for sometime that might do well in that effort.

@icedquinn

@freemo @icedquinn I have a post on my blog with a video I have here scheduled for the 26th

personaljournal.ca/paulsutton/

so feel free to link to the video, if that helps.

I think there is now more of a push towards this, so I guess it need to be publicised.

Hope to get more people interacting on discourse is an enigma for me at the moment, despite me trying to post content and linking from my blog.

@zleap

If i knew how to drive users to discourse I'd be all for it. If we had some users active over there it would likely help attract new users too. But getting that initial userbase is the hard part.

@icedquinn

@freemo @icedquinn

It is hard to determine the education level of posts. Either make it so simple and dumbed down you kinda attract everyone and don't get any real discussion or aim higher and it is harder to attract people.

I would rather treat people as if they can have really intelligent discussions, hopefully enough so any comments are backed up by links to where they get information from.

I think that makes sense.

@freemo @icedquinn
Ok to this end

discourse.qoto.org/t/open-acce

I have started a discussion on discourse, if the title / wording needs changing I am happy for the wording to be changed.

@zleap

I've mentioned our peer tube instance to you before for hosting videos right? NP with hosting them yourself of course just thought you might be interested if I hadnt brought it up to you before.

@icedquinn

@freemo @icedquinn That video was shared by @academicalnerd

on ttps://vidcommons.org But happy to share others. I think I will see what accounts I have on here actually.

I think i have a nextcloud account at least.

@zleap

peertube is nice because it is specific to videos, it is federated, the bandwidth is shared througha torrent-like interface, and supports things like live streaming.

If you plan to post videos the peer tube instance is the way to go.

@icedquinn @academicalnerd

@zleap

video.qoto.org

Feel free to look around. If you want an account just register and let me know and ill give you a quota so you can upload.

@icedquinn @academicalnerd

@zleap @freemo @icedquinn

Hello there. Glad to see my post made it elsewhere, but the video isn't mine, I only write stuff. Although this might change in the near future.

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