We really like #qoto services. Today we came to learn there are #Cloudflare fetches on #qotoDotOrg's mastodon for the instance icons.

To see the fetches use F12 for the Network tab.

It gets CSS from miy.pw, one Cf website, and that CSS gets icons for each instance type at 34.wtf, another Cf, based on HTML content.

Aside from inefficient couldn't this track/out users to Cf?

@bojkotiMalbona @witchescauldron @msaunders @paulsutton@qoto.org


Good question. This comes from the instance tracker feature added to some of our themes (its how we add a banner to posts that show what instance users are from using unique colors and icons for each instance).

We specifically provide theme versions for most of our themes that are o-ticker versions that wont fetch this css or add the tickers. This is specifically for people who dont want to use the tickers third-party css.

So if anyone is worried about this I'd suggest users simply switch to one of the no-ticker themes.

@dsfgs @MitiGator@101010.pl @strypey @bojkotiMalbona @witchescauldron @msaunders @lupyuen

@freemo @dsfgs @MitiGator@101010.pl @strypey @bojkotiMalbona @witchescauldron @msaunders @lupyuen

This is what I like about fedi, a concern / question is raised, and rather than trying to fob people off, you get a response such as this, that explains the issue and suggest possible solutions.


I have just made a Short video on how to change the theme. It is transcoding as I type this.


@zleap I cant view it since im in egypt and internet is god awful slow here. But we should find a good spot to put it for people to find it in the future.

@freemo Good point, it is still transcoding at the moment. I have a few similar videos, so could be useful for tutorials etc.

Hi zleap and Freemo (et al),

Thanks for the prompt reply and a video even, @zleap! Unfortunately, we're unable to watch videos at this time, also.

There are, to us, peculiarities to this ticker plugin. It seems to use JS (node.js) on some pages despite us having JS disabled in Tor? @torproject.

It looks like very inefficient client-side code too, iterating…1/3
@MitiGator @strypey @bojkotiMalbona @witchescauldron @msaunders @alex @lupyuen

@dsfgs @torproject @MitiGator@101010.pl @strypey @bojkotiMalbona @witchescauldron @msaunders @alex @lupyuen @freemo

is it worth this being brought up on the forum, partly as this is a matter of choice for end users but also something that admins can make clear as to the options the end users have, and the pros vs cons of this.


Yea i think the forum would be a good spot to elaborate on the details and inform users. The about page should briefly mention it and then link to the forum for more info.

Since i am in egypt with a broken leg it might be a bit before i get the chance though.

@dsfgs @torproject @MitiGator@101010.pl @strypey @bojkotiMalbona @witchescauldron @msaunders @alex @lupyuen

@freemo @dsfgs @torproject @MitiGator@101010.pl @strypey @bojkotiMalbona @witchescauldron @msaunders @alex @lupyuen
No problem no rush anyway as it is nearly christmas / new year so people may be busy anyway.

Hi, everyone well? Has any progress been made on this whole #qotoCloudflare issue?

At a good internet supply, @freemo? It will be good to know the ticker maker to know the instances using it. Is it @yi0713? When you asked the folks about the ticker and they voted for default, did they know it was Cf-hosted?

Is anyone able to address how on postPages the ticker loaded with JS(?) when JS disabled?

@torproject @MitiGator @strypey @bojkotiMalbona @witchescauldron @msaunders @alex @lupyuen


I will likely be back around good internet in a day or two if all goes well. Can you remind me then.
@miyon is the ticker maker i think.

It was quite some time ago we voted about the default theme, pretty sure cloudflare was known at the time of the vote as i had mentioned it when i first put the theme together. I need to search for the vote for and verify.

@zleap @yi0713 @torproject @MitiGator@101010.pl @strypey @bojkotiMalbona @witchescauldron @msaunders @alex @lupyuen

Even better if it could be scheduled. Then no remind needed.

Thanks for including @miyon

Cloudflare are only getting more monolitthic/dangerous. It might be interesting to see what your users discuss in a fresh RFC.

We'd be willing to devote time to improving the ticker in future (uses a lot of screen space in addition to being a possible client-side CPU drainer). Ideas @eugen?

@zleap @torproject @MitiGator @strypey @bojkotiMalbona @witchescauldron @msaunders @lupyuen


Despite the fact that my users didnt seem to care too much about cloudflare in the past i will say its a service i myself like to avoid using when at all possible. So if we can get cloudflare out of the picture and keep the tickers going id personally find that to be preferable.

@miyon @eugen @zleap @torproject @MitiGator@101010.pl @strypey @bojkotiMalbona @witchescauldron @msaunders @lupyuen

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