Paul Sutton @zleap@qoto.org

@Miro_Collas

I will re publish and ask for direct help with it, but good idea on pinning

@Miro_Collas

I made a blog post which I need to re-publish

http://personaljournal.ca/paulsutton/what-do-we-get-from-crude-oil-part-3

so these products were listed on an info graphic, which seems to now come up with a 404 but i downloaded it at the time.

if we can as a collective take each item on the list and find out how it is made from oil, what it is used for and then work out if it can be made without oil, then link all that info together it may also help

PVC can be made in other ways it is just more energy intensive so that is out. What products could we do without fully (much harder to do in a few cases)

@Miro_Collas

People are doing this over Gaza,

@ZekuZelalem

This is excellent and really encouraging too.

@arstechnica

It seems standards in the US are in the dark ages compared to the UK / EU

@Miro_Collas

I under stand that but they are seen to be dubbed the great unwashed, unemployed and lazy.

I have said before if we were to protest with a dress code reflecting what people are doing about the climate we would need to do so fully naked.

@Miro_Collas
What people like just stop oil are doing such as direct action, gluing them selves to roads, paintings in galleries, throwing paint on buildings, seems to be having the opposite effect.

While protests work in some cases they would be better off sharing information, being part of discussions and helping with the actual research.

Blocking people getting to work or worse getting to a hospital to see a critically ill family member isn't going to help anyone.

@Miro_Collas

It will be even more messy if we don't stop burning carbon, the worlds climate will collapse much quicker.

@Miro_Collas

Just try telling the general population that, I will add a link to my blog to the article you posted and also link back to the previous post about drilling rights.

@Miro_Collas

I agree with the article you posted too, it is also about Oil and gasl I started to suspect that when it was announced isreal had granted BP drilling rights off the coast

@Miro_Collas

It seems that Israel would like to just displace 2.1 million people and take over what is now Gaza but ultimately the west bank.

The west will of course just let this happen, the middle east won't let it happen and there seems to be a Millions of people, not just Muslims who will quite rightly take that side.