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Hot take: The absolute scientism of the left (lacking all nuance on scientific issues) is just as harmful as the anti-science rhetorc of the right... science is nuanced, remove the nuance and all you have is dogma.
@freemo "Don't question the science". That's the f&cking point of science, to question everything in pursuit of the truth. The left often weaponizes science, the the Church did so long ago. If people didn't question the science, we would still believe that we are the frickin' center of the universe.
@obi Hey look its great to be open-minded but at the same time dont be so open-minded your brains fall out.
@freemo Or someone will help them out lol
@obi @freemo
(I've been mulling it over, and I honestly can't think of anyone who has a cult following that thinks he "IS science", who has said some modified version of "don't question the science", and who is in some sense on the left. Will you reveal the name just to satisfy my curiosity? I promise not to be mean as a result. 😁)
@ceoln That's the only cult you see, because of the cult you are probably in (no offense, really, just from my experience but I could be wrong). One cult idolizes him as a science god, another, like you said, is obsessed with having him jailed. I accept no arguments from the position of authority, just stating that "experts" are correct, because they are experts. As I've said a million times, to me the best ethos is an arguments logos. @freemo
@obi @freemo
I can easily show you people who are obsessed with having him jailed (in fact the video that you linked shows such a person). Can you point me at someone who thinks he's a science god?
I think this bothsidesism on this is generally pretty inaccurate. People that I read on the left generally think he was both better and worse than he could have been (and at least didn't cave entirely to Trump).
'I accept no arguments from the position of authority, just stating that "experts" are correct, because they are experts.'
well, yeah, obviously; me too.
@ceoln I've only read the first part of your statement "I can easily show you people obsessed with having him jailed" and stopped. In my last reply I agreed with that statement, so I am not going to read the rest. I don't argue with cultists (on either side), it's pointless, which is why I originally said I didn't want to name names, and you said "just tell me blah blah blah curiosity blah blah blah", which I took at your word, but I learned my lesson. Let's just say you're correct and I'm wrong, so I can skip the pointless back and forth of obvious statements. It's boring, predictable, and uninteresting.@freemo
@obi @freemo
Why would you stop reading at that point? I was just reiterating something that we both agreed on, to set up a parallel construct for the rest of the sentence.
You seem to be saying that I'm a cultist because I'm asking you for examples of the phenomena that you claim are occurring. If you are hearing that as "blah blah blah", I can only wonder what causes that.
"Let's just say you're correct and I'm wrong"
Okay. :)
@ceoln If it was anything else, I'd be in for discussion. Again, this subject is just too predictable and tiresome. My apologies @freemo