Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed. That word is "Nazi."
Historians study their motives, but there is a broad understanding: their motives don’t exonerate them.
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@JuliusGoat Excellent words, something we evryone should consider, whether they voted for Biden, a man who started his political career by being pro-segregation and faught to keep segregation alive right up until it started costing him votes... or Trump, someone who was brutal on immigration (not exactly racist but I cant think of anything racist he did, maybe someone has a better example?).... Either way, most of this nation is a bit too close to supporting the wrong people it seems.
Tons, it was his his whole platform when he started as an elected official. In hisnown words he was trying to prevent a "racial jungle" so hisnwhite kids woukdnt have to go to school with black kids.
Note i didnt read this article, i just know the quotes and seen the videos of him campaigning for pro segregation.
Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”
https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/bidens-history-getting-away-racist-remarks
Ooo. OK forgot about this stuff. I also remembered the mandatory minimum sentencing for crack cocaine issue. That was pretty racist as well.
Most racist history of any president in my life time, even trump, and trump was pretty awful so thats quite a comparison.
The difference with Trump is that I don’t think he’s really come around to being any less racist than he was in the 70s. Even though Biden might not necessarily have publicly atoned for his attitudes, I’m pretty sure he’s evolved. Trump, not so much.
I thinknthats way off base.. he was consistently racist right until.itncost him votes. Even now its so transparent he is picking minorities simlly for the votes due tomthe fact that he will pick any minority, even one with bad records (like harris) just to get the minority vote. Yet he still keeps groping women and making low key racist comments...
Dude hasnt changed a bit and is clesrly just playing the game.
Talking about Bidens groping record without comparing it to trumps, is changing the subject isn’t it? I thought the contest was about who’s more racist.
That aside, Biden seems to get along pretty well with black leaders. If he is a racist, as you suggest, then why do you suppose black leaders are mostly repelled by Trump?
I tend to lump sexism against women as the same general category as racism. In both cases you are abusing a challenged class of people.
And sure, trump doesnt have a grest record in either of those situations either. But biden being racist and groping openly and with countless examples outweights trump who at least mostly has a record of accusations which doesnt give him a pass but its certainly harder to accertain the reality of his incidents.
As far as racism and sexism, that’s a whole other long conversation I don’t have the time or energy for.
And, you’ve changed the subject again. Regardless of whether you think Trump has any appearance of racism,  why is it DO YOU think, that black leaders are mostly repelled by Trump?

Because he is a republican, and most black leaders tend to lean democrat. So thry will largely play by party lines... plus as we pointed out he is racist, maybe not on bidens level, but racist. Those two combined will make a strong repulsive vibe for blacks and democrwts in general.
So this is where I say “right on, vote your conscience”🤙
Well thats a no brainer, thankfully we have lots of choices other thsn those two last election and next.
>Trump is abnormally successful with black voters for a Republican candidate
>Trump is abnormally unsuccessful with black politicians for a Republican candidate
I don't know, that sounds less of a Trump problem and more of a problem with black politicians not being aligned with the interests of black voters.
8 percent. Again, do thy will is the whole of the law. Vote.
>Do thy will is the whole of the law.
>Vote.
Pick one. You can either champion militant libertarianism or endorse a system specifically designed to legitimize an illegitimate, traitorious government.
@freemo @JuliusGoat Really? You can't think of anything racist Trump did?
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
Good find, I knew someone would fi d something more racist than what i mentioned, thanks.
Still doesnt seem to hold a candle to bidens history, but clearly some good examples.
@freemo @JuliusGoat In their time in the White House, the idea that Biden is more racist than Trump is absurd.
One metric: who did they actually put into positions of power? Biden put in a cabinet that looks like America. Trump chose almost entirely white men (who make up only around 35% of the US population).
I believe Biden chose career professionals while Trump chose cronies for their personal loyalty to him. Perhaps you disagree. I'm sure we could argue endlessly about which picks were "pandering to minority voters". The point is that Biden opened doors while Trump closed them.
You like to advocate for letting populations judge for themselves who is supporting them, and of course I agree. There's a reason 90% of Black voters chose Biden over Trump.
Whonsaid anything about "In their timr in the white house".. biden has a history that is far more racist than trunp... in the white house being racist didnt suit his agenda, second being racist cost him votes he instead switched tactics and used black people as pawns. He was racist but playing the "look im not racist look at all my black friends" game becsuse he benefited. Just because he started using black people didnt make him lest racist, just meant he was strategic and hid it.
Also keep in mind both people are family associates. Both Trump and Biden have had dinner and slept over my familys home.
@freemo @peterdrake @JuliusGoat
>> Both Trump and Biden have had dinner and slept over my familys home.
Do go on...
@lucifargundam @peterdrake @JuliusGoat
They basically act like their friends so they can beg us all for money... so every once in a while they stop by and eat our food and try to convince us their decent humans sonwe will throw them a bone.
>> Whonsaid anything about "In their timr in the white house"
In another branch of this thread, you said "he still keeps ... making low key racist comments...
Dude hasnt changed a bit and is clesrly just playing the game."
I'm saying that Biden HAS changed, but Trump hasn't.
Is Biden devoid of racism now? No, none of us are, and it's not an all-or-nothing thing. Even if you're right and Biden is just following the political wind, Trump doesn't even do that much; he is openly more racist than the electorate.
I'll say again: 90% of Black voters chose Biden over Trump. They know.
Biden has changed his actions, fgor sure, not his racism.. He went from abusing minorities to using them to his own advantage... He realized that being racist lost him votes, so he decided instead to manipulate people and minorities and use them as fodder for his own career... he has not changed a bit.
It is obviou because he doesnt even care if he picks quality minorities or not.. he will pick harris, who has an abusive record towards women and is a HORRIBLE choice, **just** because she is black.. he sees them as pawns that he can exploit to make himself paint the "im not racist" picture while staying just as racist as always... and you fell for it.
Yes his little racist comments show it, like how he talked about obama being "The first mainstream black person who is clean cut and respectable" or something like that.. this is something he said not that long ago.
Remember "You aint black if you dont vote for me"... the mans racist is as transparent as it gets.
>>he sees them as pawns that he can exploit to make himself paint the "im not racist" picture while staying just as racist as always... and you fell for it.
So are you saying that 90% of Black voters "fell for it"?
Odd you should cherry pick one specific minority race, and ignore the huge portion who didnt vote at all.
The number of non-whites who bothered to show up and support biden is something like 40%, not a majority at all... and yes I am saying something like 40% of minorities that were motivated to vote absolutely fell for it.
Also keep in mind that he wasnt even in the whitehouse yet when everyone voted for him.. so the whole using minorities as pawns and exploiting them to his advantage is not something anyone had a chance to witness yet.. There is a reason, even among minorities, his approval rating is absolutely abysmal now. People have seen his racist nonsense and are starting to realize he didnt change at all.
@freemo @JuliusGoat Biden also got solid majorities of the Latino and Asian votes.
I focused on those who voted because we have no data on those who didn't.
Of coirse we have data on those who didnt... we know they didnt feel compelled to go vote for him.
And demonstrating them him exploiting minorities tonwinnminority votes worked for him only proves my point, he does whatever gets him the votes.
The pictures youbshared of his cabnit tells it all. A person who isnt exploiting minorities woukd be picking people because of their skills not for being token black people. So youd have a staff that roughly resembles the generalnpopulation. Which is 12% black, so about one in 10 of his staff should be black, give or take... thats not what we see and it very obvious he was picking minorities simply for the sake of being minorities and thus exploiting them to compensate for his racist past and pander to them tonget their vote... and his manipulations and exploitations work, exactly as expected it.
It worked so well he even got to fondle a few women and girls on stage as thry try tonpull away and as he would forcibly hold them by the arm... more than once.
It amazes me everyone fall for such a transparent game from the guy who was all about segregation when it got him votes too.
>Of coirse we have data on those who didnt... we know they didnt feel compelled to go vote for him.
They didn't feel compelled to go vote for Trump either.
Again, I'm not denying Biden's racism. I'm simply asserting that Trump is worse.
Correct they didnt vote for trump either... thsts the point. We have two racist "nazis".. trump and biden, these people voted for neither, as any rational person would.
It is hard to compare to Bidens level of racism, then and now, no Trump isnt worse in that regard... Trump, overall, not just talking racism, is certainly onpar or maybe worse than biden. But in the racist department Biden is king and anyone who voted for him went full Nazi this election (whether they knew it or not)
Whether you voted for the guy whonwas 100% Nazi, Biden, or the guy that was 95% Nazi, Trump, is kinda irrelevant... if you supported either your on the side of Nazis.
Whom CAN you vote in the US and A who could make a difference in a completely corrupted kayfabe?
Even in Germany, the party that could, in principle, make a real difference is bickering itself out of existence.
Usualky there are 3 ton5 choices other thsn the democrat or republican choice on most ballota
… and virtually none of them have any chance to get elected.
#kayfabe
Third parties have went from 1% to a majority about 8ntimes in the history of the usa and every time it happened suddenly over the course of only one or twonelections... so yes they have a chance
@freemo @JuliusGoat
Given the absurdity of your and qoto.org's excommunication from significant parts of the Fediverse, "because you might hurt someone's [whom we can't identify, because it might hurt their feelings] feelings for reasons we can't tell you [because it might hurt the feelings of those who feel offended by you]",
what's the chance of collective action that hasn't been reduced to absurdity from the get go?
If Judith Butler didn't exist, Steve Bannon would have to invent her.
The irony is qoto remains one of the top federated instances in the fediverse... because in order to not be blocked by some, you have to block a LOT... so in the end we still remain on top, and I'm ok with that.
@freemo @JuliusGoat Cancel culture administration that blocks qoto.org makes following some folks on some instances quite ... chaotic.
@freemo @JuliusGoat
Biden fought to keep segregation alive? Biden wasn’t even in the Senate until ‘72. Do you have a source for this claim?