#VSCode is NOT Visual Studio... And my #PineTime @PINE64 tutorials are Fully FOSS-Friendly... Here's why... https://gist.github.com/lupyuen/08e383845d68d3337747e8eb59d0f624
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To me this is a perfect example of a monopolistic corporation using OSS improve its image, attract the community to do free work and marketing for them, while keeping key components of the system(in areas where they have and wish to maintain their monopoly, which for MS very much is C# and C++ dev tooling) proprietary. VSCodium supports VSCode, unless it actually forks and does sizeable amount work under a GPL like license.
Also it being based on the abomination that is electron, I just can't see how someone doing embedded dev or even just rust in general can like it, even purely on the technical level. Your only excuse is "I like shiny, and I don't care"... which is a valid excuse I guess.
I agree that is microsofts intent. I have nothing wrong with that intent. Its a wonderful step in the right direction for them and a brilliant business move overall. It simply isnt a tactic that works for me as I do not have microsoft in high regard in terms of fostering quality dev communities or products, so I stay away.
Despite my distaste for Microsoft I have no issue with them going open source, I applaud it
@freemo @namark @PINE64 OK maybe let's bring the discussion back from Microsoft back to VSCode (or whatever *Code that we can choose to name it)... Had a quick discussion with the Awesome #PineTime Community...
We would like to have a GUI tool (in addition to the existing command-line tool) because it's a matter of Choice and Inclusiveness. Some folks may find GUI IDEs more comfortable (probably younger+older coders). Also I suspect that Asians prefer a GUI IDE that's culturally agnostic. (Easier to communicate too. Any other Asians here who can validate this?)
Is it going to be based on VSCode or Electron or whatever? Not sure yet. But seems the VSCode Community has done such a great job, we should consider them.
Erm maybe I get a tad offended when people say I should use the command line and GUIs rot my brain... But my brain really works better with GUI.
And since command line tools like gdb are extremely well documented, I thought I might chip in a viable FOSS GUI alternative. Remember that All Monopolies Are Bad... Even Command-Line Monopolies 😉
So my plea to all Command-Line Fans... Please cut us GUI Folks some slack... Let's all solve problems with the tools that work best for each of us. Thanks! 🙏
I was not arguing command line vs GUI. If you want to contribute to free software you should prefer projects like emacs(it has a gui and mouse support of sorts), gnome builder, code blocks, bluefish etc.
If localization is what you are missing, than contribute to it. Though I would say that is not at all an IDE problem, there is way more important stuff (mainly learning materials) that are tied to English, random menu items of some GUI are the least of the concerns in that area.
Also I'm not sure what kind of worldview(softview?) you must have to call gdb(which is not even a company and not even a brand) a monopoly, but I'm pretty sure it makes everything I said complete nonsense to you. I encourage you to familiarize yourself with free software movement. I don't have any good pointers, but maybe fsf.org, or libreplanet.org are good places to start.
