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@akater wow that is a lot. I think I have 4 lines in mine

@akater still haven't figured how to access the hyper stuff locally

@akater I got both CCL and sbcl running, and they both seem pretty much the same. Sbcl just released 2.2 but I don't know if it will matter much. Added stuff about blocks. I still like CLisp repl from the command line works nice without adding redline around it

@akater I have them both running in different configurations, I am not noticing much in the way of differences, but I am so novice or neophyte ... Nematode even.. I really need a good feature walkthrough.

@akater then the next question WOD be SLY vs SLIME

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@billstclair you around tonight?

#Lisp is the $4!7!!!

@micrackbiron

Try this, you can see many of them, and I love the interface

https://www.searchenginemap.com/

@billstclair @namark pretty sure that is how it works. I don't remember it being any different before. Reason enough to hate on it :)

@namark @billstclair
If it were all about well thought out well designed language we might all be using Ada.

I might take a look at Pharo which is supposed to be a SmallTalk.

Anything, as long as it isn't on the JVM. That's been the irritating thing about Clojure with every little error dumping me a huge java back trace.

@billstclair @namark
As it is, I use all the editors. Well, at least Vim, Emacs, Eclipse, Nano, Kate, Gedit, Geany, Whatever there is in online sessions like REPL.it and Jupyter and so on. I do try to stay away from Semi-Free and most IDEs but when they make sense I use them. Tools is tools. The more you know how to use the more choices you have when presented with a new problem.

I have fed my family for decades with C/C++ also with VB and with T-SQL. I have been foraging into languages now that I haven't had much experience with before. I am seriously loving Python. I am also getting pretty enamored with CommonLisp and learning to hate Clojure. Not sure how I am feeling about Erlang, and Go is iffy. Everyone wants the "perfect" language or "tool" but it's not out there.

I hear 'D' claims to be like C++ Minus the mistakes. And I know people that love,love,love Rust, and at least one guy that thinks Go is the best thing since Betty White.

@billstclair I do love recursive acronyms because of course GNUs Not Unix.

In 1982 it would still be another 7 years before I would start looking at computers seriously. At which time I would be on IBM mainframe doing COBOL and using Xedit of all things. I am much happier working in AIX and GNU/Linux now.

Hey, I even got Portacle to install, and shift over to Evil and SLY on my chrome book. Not a bad little environment.

@namark @billstclair I came into editing with CUA/CAA style editors. I could do all things in Visual Slick Edit which I paid for and used for 20 years. But I have embraced FOSS and with such came Vim which is my serious goto. But I have had a back and forth love affair with Emacs. However, writing lisp just begs for Emacs. Even if I have it working "modally" or "stately" as it were. Funny, even having Evil in place I still like c-c c-f and c-x c-s for opening and saving a file. But ZZ still does the save and exit.

@billstclair

O was thinking of "EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor" https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-paper.html

Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift is what I think of... :) I still use both Emacs keys as well as Vim commands at the same time. and if I do C-Z I am back in emacs mode anyway.

But I use Vim keys in the browser, in Eclipse, in Emacs.. So yes when you get used to a set of commands.

So do you use Hemlock and Cocoa?

@billstclair there are just too many features I use so often that I miss. But the E is for extensible right? Who really cares whether you hit y or alt-w or p or crl-y?

Who's Using #emacs with #evil

I took it out and when I went to put it back in, I notice there are 65+ packages that start with Evil* I have put evil back in place. But do I want these others?

@billstclair

(defun unittest()
(interactive)
(sly-eval-with-transcript `(slynk:interactive-eval,
"(lisp-unit::run-tests :all :hamming-test)")))

Now I need to set something so that :hamming-test can be a variable