Amikke @Amikke@qoto.org

@icedquinn it's still wild to me how the US, a younger nation not bound by the old traditions and laws, ended up being more puritan and traditionalist than the countries its people originally came from. I guess that's what you get when a large portion of the colonisers are religions nuts Europeans were glad to see fuck off though.

@moffintosh @FourOh-LLC @icedquinn words can hardly describe the irony of you using the word "blabber" after posting almost exclusively commie word salad.

@moffintosh @icedquinn honestly amazing, it's as if the reasoning part of your brain was completely replaced by repeating socialist mantras. I feel like I'm talking to a bad chatbot.

@moffintosh @icedquinn what you're claiming is that:
1. the system can cut down work hours and improve the people's lives
2. they can do that without suffering major consequences
3. they didn't do that yet because uhhhhhhhh reasons but they can any day, really

Do you not even consider where those hours come from? Is planned economy some magical realm for you, where you can just make anything happen without any basis in reality?

@moffintosh @icedquinn you are coping if you think that system can do that without suffering major consequences and somehow didn't do it yet. This is on "let's give everyone money so that we'll all be rich" level of not grasping the economic reality.

@moffintosh @icedquinn dude, in the past you linked me, an Eastern European, an 40+ minute long video of some random latvian simping for soviet communism because surely his opinion is worth more than that of the people I personally know that experienced that system, and overall the majority of Eastern European population and the historical facts. Twice. I'm not spending another minute watching whatever delusional takes you link me next.

For you this is tales from another side of the world that might be true either way. For me this is the history of my region, lived by its people. Nothing that convinced you can match that.

@moffintosh @icedquinn yeah, worst that will happen is millions of people will starve and the system will collapse, but they can do it and it wouldn't be the first time.

@icedquinn @moffintosh I wish. Human nature dictates that there will always be a percentage of people that will fall for the utopian promises and the contrarian joy of thinking they're smarter than everyone else by having opposite opinions, and will even believe some of the dumbest propaganda known to man and/or just make shit up to justify that to themselves.

The China shills are at least doing it for money, and being Chinese most of them probably secretly know how bullshit it is what they're propagating. The western commies that believe them are worse, doing it for free and truly believing it, spreading that mental parasite more successfully.

@icedquinn @moffintosh it's almost as if people don't want to work on the things that are actually needed and need some pressure, so every system that tries to get away from having to work to enjoy life ends up with having to work to not go to a gulag, funny that.

@moffintosh @icedquinn
>nooo you misunderstand, the wageslave life of 996 even worse than in any developed capitalist countries is fine because it's calculated by Marx teachings

Western commies simping for China is the wildest thing.

>capitalism is making us work too much, we need to change the system
>that other system has people work even more but it's ok because it's not capitalism
>sure it might be less efficient and result in worse quality of life but at least we can work more and lick the party's boots