If you could afford any gun, what handgun, and what rifle would you get?

@freemo Desert Eagle in all three calibres. Same frame, different uppers in a kit, all don't in nickel finish. For the rifle, a Barret I think.... not for practicality, but just the sheer joy of being able to reach out and touch someone from a mile or more away.

Now on a budget, useful weapons, not toys... I'm pretty happy with my Remington new army, 1858. I might like another, but with the 12 inch barrel in stainless, and the detachable stock. For a rifle, I am seriously thinking about that KelTek SU19 or the Henry A7. I like light weight collapsible weapons that can still do what they are meant to do. Something that you can pack.

@JonKramer Nice choices.. I was considering a Desert Eagle as well.

@freemo @JonKramer It's a Blowback System so the barrel doesn't have to move around. It's really just Newtonian Physics.

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. An object at rest tends to stay at rest until acted upon by an external force.

The large mass of the slide holds the chamber closed until the inertia overcomes the mass accelerating it rearward until it reaches the end of travel and the recoil spring sends it back to the closed position. The mass has to be calculated based on the round it fires. If the mass is too small, the chamber will open up before it is safe to do so and might cause injury.

Whether it's the simplest gas piston system is another topic. The only issue I've ever had with a blowback system is in a 22lr pistol. Lead subsonic ammo didn't cycle correctly. In a full sized rifle I've loaded 22 short, 22 long and 22LR in a stacked magazine. 22 short would cycle the bolt enough to chamber 22LR or 22L. I assume this was due to barrel length and the amount of pressure not being too far off to work. A surprisingly flexible system but it could have been the 22in barrel that helped balance the equation.

If a DE is not cycling properly it should be cleaned and inspected by a Gunsmith. It's likely that the round isn't powerful enough or the magazine isn't feeding correctly. In most semiautomatics and automatics, the magazine is going to be an issue. With the recoil energy of the DE, it's not surprising that it could cause a regular magazine to misfeed.

@freemo @JonKramer CORRECTION, it's not a blowback system but actually a gas system. That's odd, I could have sworn that it was a simple blowback system.

@AmpBenzScientist @freemo, the DE is a weird weapon. I was armament in the army, and although we didn't have manuals for the DE, our shop was full of fairly qualified guys. We futzed around with that thing for months, and never did get it perfect.

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@JonKramer @freemo Maybe handloading is the answer. There's a lot that can be done with different powders and bullets. It's also the only real way to get some Mosins to be accurate. I preferred the Ruskie ammo but in the older rifles it wasn't uncommon for a good barrel to be around 0.311 instead of the expected 0.308. Handloaded ammo made the rifles consistently accurate.

Might as well invest in a reloading bench to help with the cycling. If it doesn't help for some reason, you would still have a reloading bench.

@AmpBenzScientist @freemo , if I ever get another DE, then ya, I will invest in a press. It's the only way to make ammo affordable!

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The Lee Classic is a good deal. The iron sights at 1,000 yards crowd used them. We are such disappointments and can never live up to them unless we also learn to omit important details.

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