@freemo According to qoto.org/about/more says is against laws and one would be banned because of it.

Does this mean that a expressing their religious belief about man-to-man intercourse is a hate speech? According to this is a shameful deed and according to there is death penalty for both parties having such an intercourse.

@farooqkz @freemo
What is your real purpose in asking this question?

Surely you don’t need to ask if advocating killing people is hate speech.

A more interesting question is whether this is hate speech against Muslims.

Consider this view is far from universal. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_

Consider that Leviticus 20:13, in at least the King James translation, calls for the same thing.

I can’t speak to the Jewish view here, but Christians view the Old Testament to have been supplanted by a less-harsh message of the New Testament.

(Before making assumptions about the Jewish view of Leviticus, keep in mind that the King James translation contains 2 references to unicorns—down from Tyndale’s 4).

Are you trying to incite hatred of Muslims from the LGBTQ community?

I don’t think that’s your intent, but I do think you need to reflect on why you would present the religion as a threat.

Is defaming a religion a ban-worthy act? I don’t know. I’m new here.

But I don’t approve of it.

@BobKerns @freemo @tonic

There are many acts which are considered a crime(a sin which has a punishment) in my religion and the punishment of many of these crimes is death.

Regarding "Advocating killing people", this is too general. In my religion I'm must kill someone who is aware and is trying to kill me and that I don't have any other way of defending myself(e.g. in a war).

Also the punishment for intentional murder is also death. And so is punishment for two who had a man-to-man sexual intercourse. Given that these hadiths are "correct". Under which conditions? I don't know.

Now if I narrate such a hadith and tell the others that it's correct and that's my belief, is this considered a hate speech?

The reason I'm asking about this, is my future actions. As I am a user of this instance, I must know its rules well so that I won't post something which is against the rules.

The reason this discussion is public is that it might benefit the others as well.


Lots of Muslims believe that love is love, and they don't hate people for who they are.

Maybe you should consider changing your religious beliefs. Have you considered that?

@BobKerns @freemo @tonic

@Pat @BobKerns @freemo @tonic

Okay let's change my question.

I have a personal or religious belief which is considered hate-speech. Is it okay to express that?

@farooqkz @Pat @BobKerns @tonic Are you allowed to say hate speech if you beleive in it... no, no you arent. How much you beleive in hate speech doesnt change how much it is against our rules.

@freemo@qoto.org @farooqkz@qoto.org @Pat@qoto.org @BobKerns@qoto.org @tonic@qoto.org The problem is hate speech can mean anything from obviously extreme advocations of murder on one end or just being logical on another, and this "logic" is invariably discriminatory on a technical level.

Hate speech is subjective to a degree. If I claim it is illogical for transwomen to compete in women's sports since the gender segregation is based on physicality, is that hate speech?

@Vivernu @Pat @freemo @farooqkz @tonic

1) What is the purpose of school sports?
2) The physicality to which you allude is based on hormonal differences. If we’re talking about high school sports, it’s puberty blockers we’re talking about.

This would put trans women at a disadvantage.

So to your question: what is the context? Are you attacking a trans athlete? Are you seeking to impose your opinion?

Do you seek to exclude trans athletes from high school sports? If so, do you believe that high school sports should be about finding who is most physically capable?

If so, does that even support your argument? (Personally, I reject that role for high school sports, but any trace of unfairness in who wins pales in comparison to the unfairness of not even being allowed to compete.)

Have you even met a trans woman?

But here’s a formula for you. Ask—does this speech do harm? To a group? To individuals?

Is the purpose of the group, or the actions of the individual, to do harm to others?

These questions should help you work out an answer.

I just post here. I can’t interpret the rules for you, especially out of context.


This is so much a non-issue. Just organize sports so the girls and boys play on teams together. Done.

@freemo @farooqkz @tonic

@Pat @freemo @farooqkz @tonic Ban American football, and you’ve got a deal!

Especially since male sports hog the attention and other rewards.


They could play flag football (no tackling).

I don't know what "male sports" are, but if we're getting rid of some of them, I think boxing would be one we could do without.

@freemo @farooqkz @tonic


@Pat @freemo @farooqkz @tonic
I’m regretting the choice of the word “male”. I mean sports which are divided into boys’ and girls’ versions, or men’s and women’s versions. (Take note of the order, universally used, reflecting a subordinate status, sigh…)

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