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@z428 then I really suggest to use an external website availability monitoring global service (and possibly pay for it) and pull their stats via an API (or scrape it) right into your Grafana backend.

@piggo the further escalation is hanging up *always* immediately as the person said what they need to say without regard for your reaction. Typically the hang-up happens mid-way through your sentence.

@z428 Another one I had some good experience with was Munin: munin-monitoring.org/

It really depends on what you are after.

@z428 it's useful to analyse why you want this:
1. do you want to know whether a service is up or down; or
2. do you want to know whether the service is available from outside

For 1, internal monitoring is probably the way to go: Prometheus+Grafana (optionally). For 2, you'd be better off with an external service with a network of global monitors to check availability of your service from different locations.

Anyway, Grafana/Prometheus has some plugins for this. Alternatively Monit can serve you well there too: mmonit.com/monit/

@academicalnerd 👍 And don't forget to be nice to yourself along the way.

@academicalnerd good to see you back. Persevere!

P.S.
And yes, people have more resources than they think. But it only shows when there's no other way.

@piggo @freundTech As if we have solved that problem by now...

In fact, we didn't. We just gave up.

Sales meeting: first we fed them our bullsh#t. They were impressed. Then they fed us their bullsh#t and we were also mightily impressed. Finally, we agreed to agree when we get together for the second round of the feast one week later.

@thorgrimson you can try GitLab's board which are quite heavyweight of course, but Gitea is light and has boards. Then you only need 3 issue labels (ToDo, Doing, Done) and you are set. Gitea works for me fine at home, but I still prefer GitLab for work.

@piggo Nice. So you fold it up instead of the more traditional "roll".

Anyway, for a more "juicy" result, you could consider putting under the filling a thin layer of melted butter mixed with breadcrumbs. That layer would soak in and keep all the juices released from the fresh fruit filling.

@freemo

Well, if we take politics out of this, I think you can reframe the discussion towards some shared objective around recognising that realists are concerned primarily with existing constraints seeing them as potentially insurmountable obstacles on the path to the objective, while dreamers would probably focus more on the end-outcome somewhat disregarding the obstacles, which might as well turn to be insurmountable, but dreamers don't care too much.

In this sense, personally, I tend to be more of a "dreamer" than a "realist".

@Pat

@Pat @freemo I totally agree, it's almost impossible to discuss anything political these days because of the fluid and by now also void definitions of all the political concepts. Each bubble repurposed the other sides definitions, ran them through a meat grinder and now two people speaking same words don't mean the same thing and it's almost impossible to even agree on the first principles.

Just to clarify what I personally mean under conservative vs. progressive, the best apolitical definition I've heard of recently comes from WaitButWhy series: waitbutwhy.com/2019/12/politic. BTW, I wholeheartedly recommend the whole series.

> Progressivism = concerned with helping society make forward progress—positive changes to the status quo. That progress can come from identifying what you deem to be a flaw in your nation’s systems or its culture and working to root it out, or by trying to make your nation’s strong points even stronger.

> Conservatism = concerned with conserving what is already good about society—either by fighting against the erosion of what you deem to be your nation’s strong qualities, or by pushing back against well-intentioned attempts at positive progress that you believe, in reality, will prove to be changes for the worse, not for the better.

@piggo What I also see, is yet another small disaster in making. Even if you vent this one properly, it will probably burst because of the juices flowing off from the grated apples.

Let us know the result 🙂 .

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