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re: Meta, kudos to those leaving UFOI 

@josh

Just a curious user here: may I ask for arguments or references to that “dangerous approach” you mention? I tried to read the paper, but do not see what you might mean. (no worries, I am not in this for a flamewar, I am just trying to understand this fun you guys have apparently)

Also, let me remind you that anybody thinking the admin is not right in the head does not warrant the whole community to be shunned - as seems to be happening lately.

@abby @ufoi

@Darkayne @rootadmin @realcaseyrollins

After all, this all is about a simple thing: qoto.org was excluded (blocked) for no good reason (many here think) and our admin is doing his utmost for us to “belong again”. Searching for some dark intentions behind is pointless. And he chose a way to put a finger on some real harmful phenomenon out there and tried to right the wrong. People might disagree with it, that is alright, but to imply a negative judgement about the whole community because of that is just silly. What’s so difficult to understand about it?

@Darkayne @rootadmin @realcaseyrollins Totally agree.

Guys, think about the whole community when you discuss this. An admin being an idiot in your judgement does not make a good case for silencing the whole community. After all, all admins, whatever we think of them, should be applauded for what they do for their users. And mind you, at qoto.org, you might not like the guy, but he’s doing his tech job well plus, does not even ask for contributions from the community. And he should be thanked for that - regardless of what anybody thinks about him as a person.

@rootadmin @Darkayne @realcaseyrollins

Now what I am totally flabbergasted by is that admins have a run of their life with this, but in the end their feuds lead to negative consequences for me as a user.

That somebody doesn’t like admin of my instance is a beautiful argument for blocking the entire community - without any good reason, just because somebody thinks the admin is an idiot.

Well done everybody there. Thank you. Prototypes of responsible and well-intentioned “admining”.

What a mess…. There is only one solution: individual instances. Is that what we want?

@freemo

Well, glad you take it just fine.

Personally, I agree with @satan, it’s your communication style which makes it “not right”. While it tends to be useful and effective in tech circles, it tends to work against you in social context requiring some diplomacy and getting people on board for a common cause. I know, because I use that style myself more often than I wish sometimes.

@satan

Can you spot the circles?

It took me a long time. Once you see them, they'll seem obvious.

This is the Coffer Illusion, by Anthony Norcia

@satan In my view it’s not a bad idea - I am pissed by the fact that many instances block qoto for no other reason than just they’ve heard rumors. As a normie user from inside I just don’t get it.

So while the idea is not bad as such, unfortunately (my very subjective view) it is executed by not exactly the most suitable person (sorry freemo).

I suggest to consider the idea separately from the person behind it.

@mathias Well, my older one is 14 so it could be a thing too. Let’s see. Anyway, your tips so far always worked well for me, so I’ll certainly give it a shot 😉

Last thing about qoto's "you can't defederate from me" club I promise 

@selea

As just a simple normal qoto user, I'd be interested in the response to @freemo's question too.

I observe this whole ufoi stuff happening and what is going through my head is this:
again and again there are these echoes of qoto being somehow nefarious/ugly instance, but I loiter qoto.org since 2 years now and I just don't get it. This is just a nice polite instance. The only thing I had to do at certain point was to mute whatever gleason*** stuff I didn't like which every now and then appeared boosted in my timeline and for the remainder it's just pleasant people all around. So I do not have a clue what people have against qoto. I do not want to start a flame, but I would love somebody from outside of qoto.org explain to me what the heck is wrong with our little community.

Personally, the only sensitive thing I see happening here is that when I open the federated timeline, I get bombarded with all sorts of stuff, not necessarily good for work environment, but I guess that is standard at most instances anyway - except for those which block everything by default and only allow few white-listed.

@kirrus
@freemo

@malsamaxyz@veganism.social With that growth rate, soon you’ll need a bigger chamber just to accommodate PvdD.

@yngmar 😆 the payout level: is that a real tech term of theirs there, or did you edit the screenshot? Either way, hilarious.

@mathias I heard it’s good, but did not check yet. Your take?

@piggo Having said that, I am typically wasting more time with the news than I need/should.

@piggo That’s why most of the time just scanning of headlines in the newspaper gives you 80% of all information you need. The rest is just our infotainment hungry brain kicking in - from the remaining 80% of time spent (wasted) with the news, you only derive the remaining 20% of information which is of no higher value than the headline anyway.

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