Shamar @Shamar@qoto.org

@tanakian@ծմակուտ.հայ

No, I didn't new Vishaps's #Oberon compiler. Pretty interesting!

Maybe they should add it to http://oberon07.com/compilers.xhtml

My favourite one is #OBNC https://miasap.se/obnc/

@DeveloperMemes

This is totally unfair. 🤣

@nanook

I used #GCC too.
And liked it. A lot.
I spent a huge amount of my free time in the last 2.5 years to port it to #Jehanne, a #Plan9 fork.

But since they removed #RMS from the Steering Committee I realized that relying on it is an hazard for anybody outside the US.

https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-April/235285.html

@tanakian@ծմակուտ.հայ

Yes. It's one of my source of inspiration. In particular the language.

Sorry @pluralistic but this "mind-control ray" framing is a bit of a strawman.

You don't need mind control to statistically orient a population if you control a sufficient amout of the informations that each of its members receives and also monitor their behaviour 24x7.

Such influence is not individual: no single person changes her mind just because of what #Google, #Facebook and so on... show them.

BUT they can raise or reduce the probability of a certain behaviour among a population by influencing those more inclined to it, and cohordinating the positive/negative feedbacks among the rest of the population.

Thus the problem is not economic, put geo-political.

The money they get from #AdTech is a tiny tiny fraction of the power the get from the personal data they collect.

Data that do NOT come only from #Analytics, CDNs or Apps and services like #GMail, #GoogleMaps or #WhatsApp: they also come from any third party application run on their #cloud services!

And the vast maiority of people influenced by Google (and friends) are not US citizens.

So ultimately these corporations are #US weapons, like mines capillarly spread all over the world.

As such they should not be simply broken as monopolies, but disarmed!

Breaking them into smaller companies is not only much needed but NOT ENOUGH!

Personal data collection and exchange should be out-lawed and prohibited world wide and the distribution of software that technically allow it, likewise forbidden.

All the data collected so far should be destroyed.

And in the long run, we should cap corporate dimensions (number of employees, number of customers, total #energy consumption and so on...) so that something similar cannot happen again.

@psymin

In fact #Devuan supports #FreeSoftware and #Stallman

https://medium.com/think-do-tank/open-letter-to-the-free-software-movement-7ddc7429b474

@shusha

I forgot to say: all of this is why people look for more general explainations of what is going on.

Because in this case, checking sources or looking for evidence or even "following the money" was very easy. And yet, three thousand people joined the mob against a single man.

Which is an autistic hacker, but that doesn't matter much.

Why this happened?
Cui prodest?

Can it be prevented in the future?

It's difficult to look for answers to these questions without going beyond the case in point.

At least for me.

But I'd really welcome you insight about them!

@shusha

As a father of 3 daughters, I think I understand your perspective.

But one of the issues of this whole story is that the struggle you are talking about, has been misdirected toward a man who was not sexist, mysogin or transphobic at all... just weird.

It's a long story, and I do not want to annoy you if you don't care about the details, but well known feminists and transpeople (and even several women that I personally know and know #RMS by decades) have either signed the letter in his defence or publicly wrote against this attack to his person.

I could provide you a few link but you find most interesting ones https://stallmansupport.org/articles-in-support-of-richard-stallman.html

You can trust my words or not, but you can easily check that even the attackers have retracted some their accusations to reduce the legal risks for the signers https://rms-open-letter.github.io/appendix

So here is the thing: the alligations against Stallman are false.

And yet, they managed to force him to resign from FSF 2 years ago and now that he is coming back, they raised this new campaign again.

And if you look at the organizations that signed the harrassing letter early, you will notice how many have BigTech among their platinum sponsors (Google in particular)

Since 2013 FSFE (that joined the lynching mob early with their own letter) takes more than 10% (but less than 20%) of its whole income from #Google: https://fsfe.org/donate/thankgnus.en.html

So ultimately the struggle of women and trans working in IT (and in #FreeSoftware in particular) has been weaponized to target a single man.

Now I'm happy to stay on the struggle, but here we have to ask which one?

The one strumentalized and weaponized or the one of the victim of such attack?

I'd argue: both!

But in this hatred climate it's very difficult to talk with the people whose suffering has been weaponized.

And this is heart-breaking.
And dangerous, I think.

Because it won't fix problems, but hide them.

Anyway... thanks for your link, I'll read as soon as possible.

And if you want to talk about the struggles of women in tech and how they could be addressed, I'm very interested.

@paoloredaelli

Just like it was writen in the first time.
With "olio di gomito". 😉
("olio di gomito" is an Italian way to say "with a lot of hard and valuable work")

But beware: you can't build the SAME software system from scratch AND make it simple.

No matter how good and simple are your tools (language, compilers, operating systems...) if you want to build #GCC, #Linux, #Chromium, #Firefox and so on, you are just going to fail and waste huge amount of time.

You are addicted to primitive tools (mis)designed to lock everybody in and keep powerful élites in control of your computing.

The next generation of #FreeSoftware that I envision will be very different.

Designed to empower.

@timorl