Hexnut @ambihelical@qoto.org

@mms@emacs.ch Run #emacs on #nixos writing #rust code using #chatgpt. Do all the churches at once.

@kickingvegas @mpjgregoire holy crap

@BigEatie thanks, I like this

@freemo This was a very interesting thread, thank you very much for stirring the pot. I tend to think the same as you on this topic so I may be biased, although pretty sure not as wealthy.

@TruthSandwich It does work with a browser, as I said. That's beside the point, which I thought was that not everyone will be able to read the context of what you write. I can imagine this could lead to misunderstandings. Myself, I will be avoiding this misfeature.

@TruthSandwich Mainly fyi, this particular feature of qoto doesn't work very well it seems.

@TruthSandwich Interesting both metatext and ivory clients render that without the quote text (just the first line). I was wondering what the context was until I looked on the web.

@deech conCATenative programming

@freemo @cunningstuff yeah I haven’t grokked nixos yet although I’ve made a few feeble stabs. It seems to take much more time and effort than installing j random distro. Your glowing descriptions are annoying me though, Freemo lol.

@ambulocetus Yup

@deech I think it's how much career growth and money are you willing to give up for those tools you really want to use and not what everyone else is using.

@freemo I have no idea, but I assume it was in the deep south where he grew up and went to college on the GI bill in the 50's. I can't ask him, sorry, he's been gone for awhile.

@freemo My father joined (or started to join, it's not clear) the freemasons in college. He decided it was the stupidiest mumbo-jumbo thing he ever experienced. Didn't recommend it. Let me know if he was right.

@freemo @alecui I confess I don't know much about his cabinet other than Harris and Buttigieg, and the fact that the demographics are at least an attempt at diversity. If you say they are pretty awful I can't really argue about it. However, the fact that you are claiming near uniform awfulness or at least being mere tokens is suspicious to say the least. I would need receipts of some sort to believe this.

@freemo @alecui I'm not sure why he hasn't apologized for his past racism, oh now I remember, that's your take, I'm not convinced. I think he was just mistaken at the time. I don't really expect politicians to dredge up their past mistakes, this isn't what they do. I would rather have that than politicians that do one thing and say another, almost at the same time some of them, it's pretty much performance art. There's plenty of that on the other side of the aisle right now.

I don't watch him closely enough to sense any sincerity or lack thereof. Do you have some incident in mind?

@freemo @alecui Yes that sounds bad, but even if he meant it as it sounds, I have to believe that people are capable of growth. I can think back at my own biases as a young adult and how I've changed, and have to believe that others are capable of the same thing. As I said, if he was truly racist, he would not have stood as VP with Obama, nor would Obama have selected him.

And since you are not that old (not remembering Reagen at all), you might not realize this: Some people do not grow at all, and are hopeless. Other people live, look and learn, work on their biases, and grow as human beings. The process takes years and decades, but people do get better. Do you honestly think Biden is the same person he was in the 70's? I really doubt it.

@freemo @alecui I dunno about this. At that time (I lived through this) there was a lot of opinions about what would be better for black scholastic achievement. To me, I would think busing would be very disruptive, and it probably was. So it was not clear that was the best choice. Also doing deals with nasty people is just part of being a politician as well, you can really fault one for trying to get the best deal possible, even if it is far from ideal. It is more likely that Joe Biden was just wrong on his political stance as judged by history. This is not unusual.

I mean you are talking about a guy who was VP for the first black US president, ever. No racist would have accepted that role.

At the end of the day, current actions speak louder than past mistakes, at least in my opinion. On this score, Republicans are doing poorly. Democrats, fairly well, if not as well as we might like. End of story.

@freemo @SteelFolk Indeed, it's pretty surprising. I was going to post it as a reply, but then had a look at this thread...