Meanwhile in america...

Liberals are idealists. Doesn't matter if an idea works or kills millions. As long as it sounds poetic and righteous then they really dont care if it is effective.

Conservatives are quite the opposite. They care more about the end results than how good it sounds on paper. Their problem however is a complete inability to understand the data or interpret it objectively. No matter what the data actually says in their mind it always agrees with them.

@freemo I don't consider myself a liberal nor a conservative. I'm just a simple nationalist

@Saederup92 Generally nationalist is used to mean something quite horrible. Something akin to fascist. I presume that is not the way you mean it however.

@freemo @Saederup92 I sit quite gladly Center-Left. I like what I consider to be the common sense coming from that particular area in my local politics.

@Surasanji If the left-right spectrum were a numberline with far left being -10 and the far right being +10 then I would fall exactly at the square root of -1.

@Saederup92

@freemo @Surasanji That's fine too. As long as mutual respect can exist, I see nothing wrong with leaning in different directions

@Saederup92 I think both the right and the left make valid points. I also find that since neither the right nor the left address the valid points of the other side neither is capable of coming up with reasonable solutions that address all the concerns.

@Surasanji

@freemo @Saederup92 That is often why I sit fairly in the middle, albeit slightly to the left. I can hear both sides, and agree with points on each side.

But, for now, I have to live with a very conservative government who is ABSOLUTELY screwing the pooch. The far left would also be screwing said pooch. Poor pooch. :(

@Surasanji I can understand that. Though I personally feel the "lesser of two evils" mentality is the quickest way to ensure evil prevails.

@Saederup92

@freemo @Saederup92 I'm not suggesting the center is the lesser of two evils, at least not here in Israel. There are dozens of parties here, and there are some that are specifically in the center: Yesh Atid, for instance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yesh_Atid

Those are the guys I vote for.

@Surasanji I was just thinking more from the USA terms where "left of center" means "I vote democrat but i disagree with most of what they say". I realize now in your case it probably means something very different.

@Saederup92

@freemo @Saederup92 I can see that. We're both expats and left the US for very similar reasons. It's easy to fall into that frame of mind when speaking to someone you know is from the US. Happens to me all the time. :)

@Surasanji I have a bad habit of thinking anyone from the internet is american till I hear otherwise. Part of the reason I moved to mastodon is the lack of americans.

@Saederup92