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At what point did anyone in this conversation say or suggest sex doesn't refer to a person's genes or genitals? Not me, read again.

What i said is that when we speak we use linguistic gender. We assign he and she to things irrelevant of its sex and only to its gender.

I also said that male and female are terms used to describe both gender and sex separate. Depending on context will determine which you use. If you are a doctor or otherwise talking explicitly about someones genitals you will use sex, however in the vast majority of situations when we speak we are using gender on a day to day basis, as has always been the case.

@hrisskar @realcaseyrollins

@socjuswiz @freemo @georgia @hrisskar @realcaseyrollins bro you realize a pronoun is literally just a shorthand to refer to someone or something
who cares if someone wants to be called he or she or they or it or hiqwngvhi it doesn't matter

@tuxcrafting

Valid.. the reason it matters is because they arent arguing about what is true or what is linguistically correct.. We are talking about bigotry and people trying to find ways to express that bigotry and let others know publicly of their bigotry, nothing more.

If the reason was anything other than bigotry the argument wouldnt be about the words male or female, it would be about the entire english language that follows this pattern with most words where multiple definitions exist that are only valid in specific contexts.

@georgia@dickkickextremist.xyz @hrisskar @realcaseyrollins @socjuswiz

@tuxcrafting @socjuswiz @freemo @georgia @hrisskar @realcaseyrollins it starts to matter when it's being written into law and carries corresponding legal threat.

@cereal

Yes though that is another matter. If you are going to force someone to speak a certain way in law, then we have a problem. Bigotry sucks but we do not (usually) and should not be trying to make bigotry illegal. It is something we should fight by talking to people and let them know it is unacceptable (As I am trying to do with Casey), but neither I nor any government, has a right to force him to speak a certain way.

@georgia@dickkickextremist.xyz @tuxcrafting @hrisskar @realcaseyrollins @socjuswiz

@tuxcrafting @freemo @georgia @hrisskar @realcaseyrollins @socjuswiz no, it's the discrimination that matters, everything else would be proving intent which is nearly impossible and a laughable concept.
@freemo @georgia @tuxcrafting @hrisskar @realcaseyrollins @socjuswiz well, actually... I think NYC already put that into writing? And the German Basic Law has shit about respect and whatever codified so there's the first step, just like "nondiscrimination" was made into quotas which was never the point, the groundwork to have your speech controlled by others at will is already done.
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