@mngrif I was kind of surprised by this, but visited and can confirm -- their About-More page has their blocking list and it's pretty extensive.
They list Qoto, and the justification seems to be the same as mastodon.technology -- for federating with instances they disapprove of.
Looks like it might not be due to this latest complaints thread about the subscribing to public posts discussed in other thread yesterday.
@design_RG @mngrif The list seems extensive and arbitrary. Users will eventually notice the disadvantages of being there and leave.
I'm actually kind of comforted by this, and there's no reason to leave QOTO for another instance, since they'll probably eventually make the list anyway.
It's just people crotchety about not being able to admin instances that don't belong to them. It's indeed petty, as people have said.
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I think for many non-technical people, having a server that has these blocks might feel like a security blanket maybe. They might not know who the people or the instances banned are, but if their instance staff decides they do not deserve to share communications, users might accept that without discussion.
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Perhaps but I think its more primal than that.. Its just a collective white-knighting syndrom. They feel if they are part of a community that bans others readily that means the community is "doing something" to enact change.. they feel like they are contributing to a good cause and dont bother to dig too deep to see if its justified or not because if they do they might realize THEY are the bad actors and the ones causing harm, that would destroy their entire world view.
@freemo It's a bit disheartening, because I initially thought that decentralization would get us away from the bird site problems, but it seems that some people just want their own bird site instead. @design_RG @mngrif
Well its still an improvement. On the birdsite you might be banned from an entire network. Here you just wind up no longer seeing the people who start drama and are rude at every turn, they isolate themselves and ban everyone who isnt rude like them.
In a way it is perfect, no need to ban anyone again. Anyone you'd want to ban will do it for you.
@freemo True, but on the bird site, you don't start off banned. Defederation impacts more than the individual. Neither case is perfect, and admins making decisions on behalf of all their users is just the same parenting problem as before. The whole point of having the local timeline is so people that want to shelter themselves from the global one can do so, and still follow individuals from other instances themselves. Defederation and handing that control over just defeats the purpose. @design_RG @mngrif