Stole this one from @stux , felt it deserved its own toot. LOL We got this moron Donald Trump Going up against Mumbles McBiden, America doesnt stand a chance.

#uspol #Trump #Trump2020 #Election #Election2020

@zleap

Yea their god damn idiots. I provided a 9 point plan that would make sense and most people seem to agree with.. disbanding, thats the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

@stux

@freemo @zleap @stux Nobody needs your nine point plan, we can follow well studied community safety programs from all over the world. Of course the first thing you do is use all those cash for social and community safety programs

@penny

Sorry but I've read the defunding plan in detail and its the worse plan I've ever heard, and it wont ever get passed anyway.

Sorry but as someone who has lived in many countries and traveled to many more I've seen first hand what police forces and the community look like both in well funded and not so well funded police. I've seen well funded police that do their job well, I've seen poorly funded police that made me scared for my life.

Defunding is a naive and ignorant plan that wont work and just makes things worse.

@zleap @stux

@freemo @zleap @stux what plan have you read exactly

@penny

Would be to onumerous to list them all to be honest.

I've seen the official stuff put out by BLM, I've seen several writeups from BLM members and supporters adding their own take, I've read the history of Camden and their attempts and failures, etc.

You are the first person I ever met face to face who actually thought it would work mind you, most of what I read came from BLM leadership and supporters rather than from day to day people I meet, who all have been strongly against it as a plan

@zleap @stux

@freemo @zleap @stux Okay so you have no actual examples and nothing is going to the house and therefore "not going to pass" doesn't make sense, since it's still a local issue.

@penny

No I can provide you wish some examples if you wnat. I must have read 30 - 50 articles ont he topic at this point.

You really want me to just start linking you to every article I can find that I remember reading? I mean I can do that, but to what end?

@zleap @stux

@penny

Honestly at that point you can just google search it yourself at that point.

@zleap @stux

@freemo @zleap @stux You could definitely do this by bringing in a plan and saying what you think is wrong with it; but all of these plans are prototypes, and will need to be refined by people who have knowledge of this. We may need to bring in experts from other countries.

@penny

You cant refine a bad idea... Any solution that is "refined" by "experts" and actually works wont look anything like the defunding plans.

In fact most plans that will work might see certain aspects of police see less funding (like their weapons budget) overall any viable plan is likely to see increases in budget but in the right places (oversight, new laws, new agencies, body cams, pretty much the areas I listed in my 9 point plan).

@zleap @stux