Stole this one from @stux , felt it deserved its own toot. LOL We got this moron Donald Trump Going up against Mumbles McBiden, America doesnt stand a chance.
Sorry but I've read the defunding plan in detail and its the worse plan I've ever heard, and it wont ever get passed anyway.
Sorry but as someone who has lived in many countries and traveled to many more I've seen first hand what police forces and the community look like both in well funded and not so well funded police. I've seen well funded police that do their job well, I've seen poorly funded police that made me scared for my life.
Defunding is a naive and ignorant plan that wont work and just makes things worse.
Would be to onumerous to list them all to be honest.
I've seen the official stuff put out by BLM, I've seen several writeups from BLM members and supporters adding their own take, I've read the history of Camden and their attempts and failures, etc.
You are the first person I ever met face to face who actually thought it would work mind you, most of what I read came from BLM leadership and supporters rather than from day to day people I meet, who all have been strongly against it as a plan
You cant refine a bad idea... Any solution that is "refined" by "experts" and actually works wont look anything like the defunding plans.
In fact most plans that will work might see certain aspects of police see less funding (like their weapons budget) overall any viable plan is likely to see increases in budget but in the right places (oversight, new laws, new agencies, body cams, pretty much the areas I listed in my 9 point plan).
I am not necceseraly objecting to splitting up the police into seperate agencies. In fact in a lot of the USA we do that already in some minor ways. The police arent the ones who invest their time into writing parking tickets for example.
But again what it all comes down to for me is
1) Other places have not shown consistent success in this approach in the cases I know of it has either made matters worse or at best marginally better (and often didnt have the problems we had in the first place).
2) It simply is naive to and does not address the underlying issues. Which is that the people who are given the power to arrest others cover up their own mistakes and ultimately coordinate with the DA who has a conflict of interest when it comes to persecuting them as well.
On the flip side the countries I've been to with the most excellent police forces are often highly funded. Which demonstrates to me that funding is not the red pill it is made out to be.
Who are you talking about. I'm not a white person, I'm a Native American and frankly I'm insulted you would assume you have any clue what my race is without asking, let alone to use that as fodder against me.
Check your privilage. That is the first time you have said something out of line, normally I find you passionate thought respectful.
While i agree there is no shortage of racism from the left, there is also no shortage of legitimate racism from the right. The bigger difference i find, however, is the left is often quick to label anyone who criticizes their approach as a racist. Thankfully Penny doesnt appear to have any of these problems. She is good people.
it would be stupid to say the right isn't racist but it's difficult for me to believe that a right wing country is anywhere comparable to a left leaning country even on the extremes
Leaving aside ill conceived inmigration policies and situational extremes because they don't really represent what the average joe feels