So the democrats managed to elect the first president in my life time who fought to keep schools segregated. The saddest part of that is they arent even ashamed of themselves right now.

@freemo Most won't even admit the election irregularities. "There is no fraud."

We're watching politics get much closer to religion.

@djsumdog @freemo how long are you gonna be a sore loser about this :comfyuee:

@mewmew
I have heard democrats talk about election fraud being a rampant problems for decades and spent most of trumps presidency trying to prove it to be true. After spending four years insisting the election system is rigged now all of a sudden the system is infallible?

Don't get me wrongs i dont think its rigged, i wont dismiss it, but i want to see evidence and i have yet to see any.

I am just more concerned with the hypocrisy of a party that spent 4 years trying to go to court to get Trump kicked out for election fraud with no evidence is now all of a sudden completely offended when trump does the same and has been at it for only a day?

Also lets not forget Al Gore spent 35 days after the election was called claiming fraud before finally conceding

@djsumdog

@freemo @djsumdog what you have said here is so far from anything resembling reality that I'm not going to argue against it, there's nothing really substantive
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@mewmew

Argue against what? I made no claims other than pointing out the democrats spent 4 years trying to impeach trump for, in part, election fraud... If you really think that doesnt resemble reality then you arent in touch with reality yourself clearly.

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@freemo @djsumdog no, they haven't, if you thought they had been trying to impeach him for election fraud you have not been paying attention at all. Democrats didn't claim election fraud, Clinton didn't claim she won the election, Democrats didn't sue MI, WI, PA. You're just making up bullshit to try to paint them as hypocritical.

@mewmew
What rock have you been under where you dont know about the claim the russians interfered with the election to get Trump elected? It basically circumvented the usual legal cap we place on campaign financing if the russians did interfere. So yes that would be election fraud.
@djsumdog

@freemo @djsumdog no, that's not election fraud.

You're being incredibly dense here. These are totally different things. Democrats agree that Trump got more votes in MI, WI, and PA than Clinton did in 2016. They never disputed that. They never claimed that their ballots were thrown out.

@mewmew
I never said they did. Election fraud is not limited to the counting of ballots. By definition it is any illegal process that causes one person to get more votes than they otherwise would. You simply incorrectly assumed that my statement was supposedly about vote counting.
@djsumdog

@freemo @djsumdog ah, so your argument is "Democrats cared about campaign finance violations, why don't they care about Trump's temper tantrum over losing"

This is such an idiotic argument. "why are Republican caring about election fraud now when they claimed there wasn't any for the past four years when Democrats tried to investigate" is an equally fair (in the sense that it's absolutely nonsense) argument as the one you used

@mewmew

Nope not my argument at all.

You do realize quotes are supposed to be used for things people have said right, not imaginary things you want to argue over that you think they said but didnt. I can see now where that disconnect from reality comes from if you cant even correctly reiterate what i said moment ts ago.

Probably best, and far more polite, to ask for clarity when you struggle to understand a persons point rather than whatever nonsense that just was. Come on your better than that dont start acting like those clowns all of a sudden.

@djsumdog

@freemo
I think @mewmew's point is that interfering with the elections by disrupting social media and financing violations, and actually interfering in the vote counting process are so different, that comparing them is unreasonable. In particular, the former is massively easier to do, and thus more likely a priori. These are also related to very different parts of the election process β€” the former requires a lack of trust in the honesty of the Trump campaign, and the latter a lack of trust in the integrity of the voting and vote counting process.

Besides it's strange to criticise Dems in this case, since it turned out they were right. If it later turns out that they were also wheeling in Biden votes to counting centers, then the comparisons still won't be equivalent β€” although in this case because interfering with the counting directly is much worse. So far this seems extremely unlikely.
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