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@torresjrjr @freemo @funny @dogs I agree to a point.
I don't think a dog raised in bad conditions becomes inherently bad or evil. It's simply adapting to its surroundings. You see this in rescue animals all the time like vicious dogs that are only that way until taken away from the people that made them that way.
Humans on the other hand will still be a-holes no matter what environment they're in 😅 🌍
> I don't think a [person] raised in bad conditions becomes inherently bad or evil. [s/he's] simply adapting to [his/her] surroundings. You see this in [abused youth] all the time like [juvenile delinquents] that are only that way until taken away from the [people/parents/gang/gulag/terrorist group/famine/etc] that made them that way.
I don't see much difference there.
@Wetrix @freemo @funny @dogs
> I don't know if my dog lies
It is harder to tell when a dog/pet lies, but that's really only because we don't hold a higher standard of honesty to our pets, because
1. They don't speak, so they are less capable of communitcating thoughts, including falsehoods. So we don't think of them like that.
2. We find them cute usually so we let it slide lol.
@torresjrjr @freemo @funny @dogs I don't think dogs even have the cognitive capacity to lie. To them lying is just not something they would understand or comprehend.
That's why they are loved by so many people 😄🐶😁
@torresjrjr @freemo @funny @dogs your puppy lying thing is def funny lol 😂
I don't know if my dog lies, but he def knows when he's done something wrong and he'll try to hide it. Like peeing in the house. He'll find the sneakiest place he can because he knows it's wrong and doesn't want to get caught 😅 🐶
My dog was an amazing liar too. I have a story I tell, it sounds like an exaggeration but I assure you it is not.
My friend had been staying with me and he had just had a gigantic > 1 foot cheese steak delivered and he sat down, unwrapped it and it was an inch away from his mouth when ht noticed he was stopped by my dog who had placed her water bowl on his lap.
you see she had conditioned us many times before that whenever she was done drinking her water bowl and it was empty that she brings it to one of us and we will go fill it for her, it was pretty cute and smart of her in her own right.
Anyway my friend of course puts his glistening cheese steak sandwhich down and gets up to fill her bowl.. Now usually the bowl sat right at the base of the sink we used to fill it. Right as he walks over to fill the bowl I hear a cry from him "what the hell there is water all over the floor" as he stands in a puddle with his socks. A split second later he looks over and sees my dog, propped up on the chair with an entire foot and a half long cheese steak going down her throat in one byte like she was an anconda. Even though he only turned his back away for a few seconds there wasnt a speck of food left, just a dog with a gigantic grin on her face.
It tooks us both a few seconds to realize what happened.. but what Blue did was she saw the cheese steak and even though her bowl was filled that cheeky bastard literally dumped the water on the floor and brought the bowl to him just to distract him from the cheese steak so she could get an in to steal it. It was cold, and calculated, and kinda fucking brilliant for a dog if you think about it. As far as I was concerned she earned that damn cheese steak :)
This is Mur 
@freemo
I would like to hear more Blue stories 
@Wetrix @torresjrjr @funny @dogs
She was a character to say the least. How much attention she gave you was directly perportional to how new you were.. New people she insisted on hello cuddles for the whole time your over. She would eagerly await for the gues to sit somewhere and then nudge her nose under their leg or arm and force her way in for some cuddle time.
Also the more the new person seemed standoffish or even scared the harder she tried. If you had a fear of dogs or pitties she would put in twice the effort insisting she break you of your fear with endless cuddles :)
Some random attached pictures as evidence.
I had her from a fairly young age, I got her at 15/16 against my moms wishes (and had always wanted a dog growing up).. I literally went and got one the first week I had a license and a car to do so.. The story around that is a bit funny in its own right.
She lived 15 years, to an old pupperino, with sage wisdom and licks for all. But she was very near and dear to me, with all the emotional connection of a daughter, loosing her was like loosing any close relative and friend.
But yes, she passed after 15 years of smiles, this was soemthing like 7 or 8 years ago now, so the pain isnt as sharp, I just remember her with smiles and maybe a little water in my eyes but mostly happiness over having that time with her.
But yea its been 8 years and I still talk about her anytime I get the chance, I will be 100 years old and on my death bed and the nurse will tell me if i need anything and with my dying breaths I'll start with "Did I ever tell you about blue?"
It reminds me of the song Mr. Bojangles who also had a dog named Blue who died in his youth and for his whole life he would talk about Blue to everyone he met.
Here is the song along with a little spoken back story by Bromburg: https://youtu.be/50JBp71K5tw
"He spoke with tears of 15 years of how his dog and him traveled about. His dog up and died, ya know hsi dog up and died. After 20 years he still grieves." -- Mr. Bojangles
@freemo @torresjrjr @mur2501 @funny @dogs to good! That's great you had such a great dog with great memories 😊 this is tiko! He's a 15 year old toy pom! Best dog I've ever had 😀
he looks armed and ready for some doggie cuddles :) What a cutie.
@freemo @torresjrjr @mur2501 @funny @dogs hehe yeah that's him hiding under someone's leg 😂
You have pics of blue?
I shared a few in this thread, and a little backstory on the pictures. I do have tons of others:
@freemo @torresjrjr @mur2501 @funny @dogs awesome! I didn't see those until now! Such a nice pup! Is that you?
No, I am a man, these are mostly women I have been close with. Attached are pics of her trying to cuddle me.. she was a professional cuddler as you can see :)
@freemo @torresjrjr @mur2501 @funny @dogs awesome pictures!
@freemo @torresjrjr @funny @dogs that's an awesome story 😂👌🏻
@freemo @funny @dogs that's exactly me to 😅
The reason it's me is because animals are innocent. They only want 1 thing in this world. To be loved.
They have no alternate motives, they just want to love and be loved. Full stop. (Domestic ones)
Humans on the other hand, lie, deceive, manipulate, kill for pleasure etc and usually get what's coming to them in those situations and it just didn't happen for no reason.
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