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While the specific percentages in this meme are not accurate, still lol. There is a lot of truth to that when we have a high risk vaccine that didnt go through the usual safety checks being pushed on the public.
You stupid dumbfuck #covidiot alibistic piece of human garbage.
Thinking is hard when MSM don't tell or pay you what to think.
Takes 3 seconds to pull it out of your fat ass.
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/documents/product-information/comirnaty-epar-product-information_en.pdf
Who is dumbfuck? you. you have IQ -100 do you?
Liars like you gotta lie until you kill every sheep around you by parasitizing on them. Your time will come. You won't hide from God.
@freemo 100% agree here, this isn't the first time a vaccine has been pushed through without adequate regulatory testing due to political pressure (the HPV vaccine, specifically Gardisil, for example, had particularly shoddy negative controls for determining efficacy). I'm no anti-vaxxer by any stretch, but empirical evidence and proper testing protocol needs to be followed, the FDA needs to actually do it's job, and people need to be aware of the risks before having any prophylactic or treatement administered.
@johnabs yup, im generally pro-vaccine, but only because of that safety, I wont support one despite that safety however.
@freemo How so? They all have gone all 3 phases of testing. I've read that 90% of the time is usually wasted on trying to get funding, which at this moment is naturally hardly a problem.
@trinsec No they havent. One has completely skipped the animal testing phase (the others did not skip however) and every single one of them significantly cut down the required time in each phase, by passing the usual (and very critical) ong term studies needed.
No this is typically unrelated to funding, most vaccines are developed in house at huge pharmaceutical companies, they are more than capable of funding their own projects typically.
In fact the process cut out such a huge swatch of the normally required time for each phase that it required emergency status from the president to make it legal at all.
@freemo But I'd think that big organisations that checks the process aren't just going over this lightly? The EMA in Europe and FDA in USA?
@trinsec lightly is a bit of a loaded term... they skipped studies that often catch complications that would have resulted in many perminantly injured or dead, we have those safety measures in place for a reason.
We aso know fromt he past that when we start skipping steps on vaccines, people die, lots of them... we might get lucky here sure, but it is wreckless and stupid and the result of fear mongering that has been amplified throughout the course of the virus (not to say it isnt a serious virus, but it has been used as a point of fear regardless).
ADE is by far the biggest risk factor and the one most scientists keep warning us about and have continually asked the FDE to not skip safety steps for fear of ADE.. ADE is most often detected from the long term studies and if it does crop up can turn a vaccine that appears safe in short term studies into a mass-killer long term.
ADE is a documented effect (and the reason for several vaccines to be rejected) whereby a vaccine causes immunity in the short term but causes an amplified effect in long-term exposure so that people exposed to the virus 9 months, a year, or sometimes more into the future wind up have extremely severe reactions to the virus (often leading to death).
There is nothing the FDA could do to avoid this other than the proper long term studies... there is no replacement or way to speed up proper drug safety, especially not with vaccines.
@freemo what's the justification for calling the vaccine (which one?) "high risk"? relative to what? The accuracy of risk calculations is kind of the whole point.
@2ck All of them. The justification being that all the usual safety requirements for releasing a vaccine had been relaxed or skipped. This is why there was 1) a requirement of an emergency approval from the president to allow it to be released without the full rounds of safety 2) an exemption from liability that ensures the company cant be sued by those who take the vaccine.
the specific safety skipped is two fold. one, and this isnt the most troubling by a long shot, is that at least one ovf the vaccines skipped the animal testing phase.. two, and the most concerning, is the lack of long-term trials during safety tests. This is one of the most important steps for safety (and usually lasts several years). It detects things like ADE which can only be detected through long term studies. ADE is where the effects of getting a vaccine are immunity in the short term (order of months) but severe adverse reaction to infections after 9 months, a year or more. If a vaccine produces ADE then a person who gets infected a year or more into the future will have much **worse** reaction to the disease with higher mortality rates and permanent injury over those who are unvaccinated.
