Funny, remember how all the liberals complained about the heinous injustice of Trump using executive orders excessively.... well surprise surprise Biden issued many times over what Trump issued in executive orders already. In fact in just one day in office Biden had already twice the number of executive orders as Trump had after 2 weeks... funny dont hear a single liberal complaining, not one... its almost as if they were just complaining because it was a republican doing it and they have complete double standards... nah that couldnt be it right?

#USPol #Biden #Trump

@freemo they both have double standards though

@louiscouture Both? Both who? We are only talking about liberals.. who is the other group your talking about and why is it relevant?

@freemo oh because republicans literally impeached over a blowjob but seems to be totally fine with encouraging a coup,

@louiscouture Not true.. they impeached because a president lied, under oath, and in court... thats pretty serious. The fact that he used his position to take advantage of a woman isnt the best but it is not what he was impeached over.

Trump on the other hand never planned or asked anyone to do a coup. The moment any violence broke out he immediately was on TV asking everyone to go home and asking for there to be no violence.. he did not start, encourage, or perpetuate a coup.

Now what Trump was legitimately guilty of was being a fucking nut job conspiracy theorist and spreading that bullshit and others believed him... Which is totally legitimate to dislike Trump for that, but it is hardly illegal.

@freemo this is false https://www.businessinsider.com/how-trump-in-final-weeks-incited-his-followers-to-storm-the-capitol-2021-1?op=1

@louiscouture I've read this before.. does not disprove a single thing i just said.

@freemo it’s pretty obvious so I don’t know why you say this

@freemo

@louiscouture Not sure how any of that even remote supports your point.. those words and those instructions have been given countless time sto countless crowds in similar political protests.. marching on the capitol and "fighting for our rights" is a very common motif and never once represented someone intentionally inciting a coup.

@freemo no other president ever said “fight, don’t concede” The context clearly shows that he’s trying to incite them

@louiscouture actually several have, in fact i had this conversation just a week or two ago and found quotes of both kamala and biden using very similar wording in the past.

@freemo not in this context.

Clinton conceded

Romney conceded

McCain conceded

Gore conceded

Trump never conceded

@louiscouture @freemo We never got any meaningful answers to the elections from the courts. None. Many dismissed cases on standing, latches or procedural grounds. Wisconsin took a case, but decided it without arguments, ruling they had standing but didn't see merits. Thrown in there were idiots and morons like Wood and Powell with their terrible suits with massive issues; right next to well researched suits like the one out of Texas.

What are the people to do when the system designed to give relief fails utterly and completely?

@djsumdog @freemo when one side doesn’t have a valid case, it’s normal that the courts don’t want to hear.

@louiscouture

Agreed, Trump's lack of evidence means he wont get a court case heard in many circumstances, thats normal and the appropriate response.

Also many courts **did** take his case and he still lost.. so its moot either way.

@djsumdog

@freemo @louiscouture I disagree especially in the State Farm Arena. Observers were removed and counting continued. The pipe/water break never happened. They did image recounts instead of hand recounts at first. They never did a meaningful canvas. They never did signature checks on the recounts. There were tons of dead people and double votes under maiden names.

Observers were removed in Nevada, Philadelphia, and kept away at a distance so far they couldn't challenge any ballots.

Did Trump win or loose? Who the fuck knows. It's impossible to know when you dump hundreds of thousands of unsolicited mail-in ballots into the system.

Does Trump talk like an idiot? Sure, he's annoying to listen to. Should he have fought? Absolutely. The election irregularities were massive.

Election fraud is always difficult to prove. That's why they did it.

It doesn't matter what you believe about it; this is the most contentious election in recent American history. We've had worse of course. We've had a president elected without the popular or electoral vote. But it's the most significant one from our lifetimes.

That causes instability and a loss of confidence. If Biden was so sure of his 80m vote victory, why is there a military occupation in DC and why is he questioning the loyalty of military officers? That is not a sign of confidence. That's fear.

@djsumdog

We can go through each of those points one by one.. each are pretty trivially debunked with a little research.

For example in philadelphia, observers were allowed in all the places the law allows them to be (and have been allowed in previous elections). The argument made is that they were denied access to certain areas where poll watchers are and always have been explicitly denied access to.. so whats the legal argument there your trying to make at all? Where is the unfairness.. it was handled exactly as it was supposed to be.

@louiscouture

@freemo @louiscouture

Poll worker denied access in Nevada: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X2V5hPPp6w

In Detroit, they cheered when they removed GOP Observers: https://twitter.com/aricnesbitt/status/1324105401814626304

I covered a lot of this back in November: https://battlepenguin.com/politics/the-return-of-american-corruption/

How exactly do you "debunk" the counting continuing after the "pipe burst" in Fulton Co?

@djsumdog

Whats to debunk, we know what happened quite well, the pipe burst, **part** of the building was evacuated. The part where they were counting the ballots wasnt effected and the ballot counting continued after the pipe break, which occured in a different area of the building.

Whats even to debunk, there is literally no evidence anything other than what i just recited occured.

@louiscouture

@freemo @louiscouture There is literally no evidence what so ever of a pipe burst. They are on video counting afterwards with no observers called back in. Why would you NOT question this?

@djsumdog

What, the pipe didnt burst in the room they were counting in, it burst in a totally different section of the building and had no effect on the count... what is there to even question?

@louiscouture

@djsumdog

What "evidence" are you even suggesting here.. We literally have every second of footage (17 hours of it) of them counting the ballots. No sign of any wrong doing of any kind. Not even sure what a pipe bursting somewhere in the building has to do with your claim of wrong doing.

@louiscouture

@freemo @louiscouture There was no pipe burst!!! What makes you think there was? Because they said so? The "pipe burst" was literally an excuse to get the observers out. Then some people, resumed counting, without observers, opening boxes of ballots that were in non-standard locations, for hours until morning. Yes, there is video, and it was brought up in several of the hearings on the matter.

@djsumdog

Dude what the hell are you smoking, you can literally see the water on the floor from the leak in the video tape for one, and for two, the observers were never asked to leave, counting continued as normal, it was just a small leak... what in the world are you even talking about you dont have any of the facts right and literally all of it is on video so there isnt much to dispute.

@louiscouture

@freemo @louiscouture Link to video?

@djsumdog

Sure I will search for it again when i have some free time and link you.

@louiscouture