When the constitution was written it didnt have modern vehicles in mind! Ban assault trucks!

@freemo You know, that actually raises a good point. You might have the right to bear arms... muskets, that is. You probably shouldn't have the right to own one of those modern weapons at all. ;)

@trinsec yes everything modern and dangerous should be banned.. cars, guns, SCUBA, drain cleaner...

@freemo How do you use drain cleaner as a weapon? I'm really curious now! SCUBA I can still see usable as a blunt weapon, especially those oxygen tanks!

@trinsec People have used it as a weapon in some quite brutal assaults. They usually fill a jar with it and splash it on someones face. It can blind and disfigure.

@freemo Makes sense! But it's not produced with the intention to use as a weapon though! Unless you count the war against clogged up drains!

@trinsec So guns are ok but only if they are produced with the intention that they wont be used a weapon? Seems like a rather arbitrary standard to me. Who cares what the person making it "intends"?

@freemo nothing arbitrary about that, these are items designed and built for specific purpose - to wage a war. You can't wage a war with drain cleaner or trucks, even medieval weapon systems will beat that, especially in a city. You don't ban weapons so that one person wouldn't be able to do one stupid thing, you ban them to prevent criminal organization from waging all out wars against each other and the police. After achieving world piece and ending all wars, you might be able to design something that could be a weapon without it becoming a weapon, but meanwhile, if it can be a weapon of war it will be tried, tweaked, produced and marketed as a weapon war.

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Incorrect. The AR-15 is not designed to wage a war and has never been used in a single war. Their primary purpose is "small game", as in, farmers shooting at rodents and moles to keep them off their land.

An AR-15 is not even powerful enough to use for deer hunting.

You are likely thinking of the M-16, which has a similar design but is an entierly different gun and is only capable of being used in war due to being fully automatic, which really only works as such because of it being a low-power rifle with low kick back.

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@namark In fact, quite the opposite is true. They are designed specifically to **not** be useful in wars.

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