When the constitution was written it didnt have modern vehicles in mind! Ban assault trucks!

@freemo You know, that actually raises a good point. You might have the right to bear arms... muskets, that is. You probably shouldn't have the right to own one of those modern weapons at all. ;)

@trinsec yes everything modern and dangerous should be banned.. cars, guns, SCUBA, drain cleaner...

@freemo How do you use drain cleaner as a weapon? I'm really curious now! SCUBA I can still see usable as a blunt weapon, especially those oxygen tanks!

@trinsec People have used it as a weapon in some quite brutal assaults. They usually fill a jar with it and splash it on someones face. It can blind and disfigure.

@freemo Makes sense! But it's not produced with the intention to use as a weapon though! Unless you count the war against clogged up drains!

@trinsec So guns are ok but only if they are produced with the intention that they wont be used a weapon? Seems like a rather arbitrary standard to me. Who cares what the person making it "intends"?

@freemo nothing arbitrary about that, these are items designed and built for specific purpose - to wage a war. You can't wage a war with drain cleaner or trucks, even medieval weapon systems will beat that, especially in a city. You don't ban weapons so that one person wouldn't be able to do one stupid thing, you ban them to prevent criminal organization from waging all out wars against each other and the police. After achieving world piece and ending all wars, you might be able to design something that could be a weapon without it becoming a weapon, but meanwhile, if it can be a weapon of war it will be tried, tweaked, produced and marketed as a weapon war.

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@namark @freemo @trinsec

only cops and criminals should have useful weapons until world peace is achieved

No.

@ademan No idea how you managed to misinterpret what I said so spectacularly. Neither cops nor criminals should have enough military grade equipment to be able to wage war against each other, if you ask me.

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@namark @trinsec @freemo guess what buttercup, they do. The logical conclusion of your position is only the cops and criminals having guns. As I already said: No.

@ademan @namark @freemo @trinsec the most important change would be to forbid military from using military-grade weapons
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Suprisingly I agree with you.

For me the general rule should be that any weapon the US military, national guard, or police force is able to wield on US soil for use against its own citizens should likewise be permitted by the general population.

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