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I am still of the opinion that the vast majority of high functioning autism and people "on the spectrum" isnt autism at all, or any sort of mental disorder, at least in the USA. These are the normal and well adjusted people. It is americans that are hyperconfrontational and create drama out of nothing expecting others to guess at subtle hints rather than acting like a mature adult and being direct and communicative of their feelings.
What we really need is a disorder called HSSD (Hyper Sensitive Subtlty Disoorder) or something describing this behavior and the. Label the vast majority of americans as being mentally ill.
The thing that makes this so obvious to me is uf you take any of these people labeled as autistic who feel they cant read social cues and then stick them in a country with a relatively healthy (mentally) population they will function perfectly fine and appear completely normal.
@RoboftheVolcano
Do they? Im not sure if autism even has any meds for it does it?
for the variations of autism caused by nutrient deficiencies there is some success in supplementation. otherwise, no.
@icedquinn
For hogh functioning autism i agree, its uselessly vague. But for people with real autism, particularly severe cases, i do think there is a lot of similarity and it does appear to my untrained eyes as a singular disease.
@RoboftheVolcano
@freemo @icedquinn
seems weird that it is far more prevalent these days.
Like people have been poisoned.
both have become more prevalent. ex. human brain mass is shrinking on average.
@RoboftheVolcano
We dont know enough about it to say if there isnt some environmental component. We do know there is a genetic aspect to many cases, but there are yet other cases with no apparent genetic factor. So who knows, maybe there is some "poison" at play.
That said i think many of the rise in cases is just the result of society becoming less mature in the way i mentioned in my OP and this causes more false diagnosis. Could also just be that awareness for the disorder is on the rise.
@icedquinn
@freemo @icedquinn
or Pill pushing Doctors the agents of Big Pharma
@RoboftheVolcano
Its unlikely to be the result of prescription drugs, if that were the case it would have been much easier to identify it as the cause.
@icedquinn
what used to be classified as autism prior to every neurological deficiency being called autism?
Autists are also hyper sensitive to psychosomatic conditions too, take for example trans people and the absurd amount of drugs they take
@RoboftheVolcano @freemo
@Elfie @icedquinn @freemo
Yes all the Meds Pill Pushed on people by the Agents of Big Pharma Doctors
People seem to have forgotten about thr opiod crisis which never really ended
All those people didn't need opioids and yet so many grew addicted and od'd on it...
@icedquinn @freemo
@Elfie
What do trans people or the hormone therapy drugs have to do with autism?
@icedquinn @RoboftheVolcano
@freemo @Elfie @icedquinn
I don't think you understand how Big Pharma operate in the USA
@freemo @Elfie @icedquinn
In the USA Big Pharma provide incentives to Doctors to push pills and hence are keen to diagnose people unnecessarily,
I am aware of the dynamic with doctors and the harm, no argument on that point.
Most non binary/trans people are all on the spectrum, whether it's a self diagnose or not is hard to tell but if you don't believe me just find anyone that's trans and ask/check if they have autism
@icedquinn @RoboftheVolcano
@Elfie
Oh, i wouldnt know. I have no data to that effect.
@icedquinn @RoboftheVolcano
@freemo Don't be silly these parasites have drugs for everything.
@freemo I have a friend who is autistic, very pushful on religion but whatever keep him fine, he isn't non functional but just thinks jokes are too far and etc. What you are saying is a nicer way to put that.
@freemo What if I've been diagnosed with autism, _and_ I live in a country with a relatively healthy (mentally) population? ;)
@trinsec
Well i never said autism doesnt exist at all. I only stated the vast majority of high functioning americans are likely misdiagnosed
@freemo @trinsec I agree that this is hyper-sensitivity at play. Where that comes from, I am not sure.
I took an online "Autism Test" (big quotes) and the result was "Mild to Serious Autism", and I am certain that I don't have autism, just that a) I don't like people much, b) very logical and analytical. I.e. "Autism shows X, therefore if you have X you are Autistic" is a non-sequitur, but seems how psychiatry operates.
False diagnosis underpinned + Victimhood societal mentality...
@niclas
I think its just when you live in the sort of toxic social environment like the usa it will cause these sort of false positives.
A hallmark of autism is being oblivious to social cues. A common pattern in america is for people to dislike things someone does and instead of being an adult and talking it out they just bottle it up and secretly hate them. Then thry expect the other person to pick up on it like a mind reader and when thry dont its their fault rather than recognizing the immaturity about not talking about it. So now the other person, who deals with this constantly, starts to think they just suck at picking up social cues when really they are perfectly normal
It is americans that are hyperconfrontational and create drama out of nothing expecting others to guess at subtle hints rather than acting like a mature adult
I.e. narcissistic behavior. Seems like what Christopher Lasch was trying to prove in The Culture of Narcissism.
@freemo "completely fine" until they meet women.
@CapitalB Meet women? They do that?
@freemo yes. And some are autistic too.
If you ever can eavesdrop two autists you never ever turn to electronic entertainement again.
@freemo Yeah but Big Pharma wants to pump them with meds