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Sp I wrote a pretty lengthy blog post entitled:
# Eugen Rochko, CEO of Mastodon, Found to Support Nazi's Agenda
Sadly I wish it was clickbait.
You can all read it here:
https://jeffreyfreeman.me/eugen-rochko-ceo-of-mastodon-found-to-support-nazis-agenda/
It is the pinnacle of the recent drama. I will also be sharing it on twitter, linking the joinmastodon account there. I tried to include most of the evidence in the article. Hopefully this will have some positive result
So, it really is click bait because it's not true that he supports a nazi's agenda. I read the whole blog post and can't see how that's true.
Did he handle a situation badly? Maybe. Does he support nazis? Not from anything I can see in your post. Did he support you and your community? No. Sorry about that.
Also, it's not clear how delisting from the join site harmed your users. Could you expand on that?
I'm really sorry for what you and your community have been through.
@Elephantidae The Nazi's agenda was to get us defederated and delisted, he knew this was his agenda. He then delisted us as a direct result of that Nazi's campaign, therefore,he satisfied the Nazi and appeased his agenda.
I'd say that makes it quite literally true.
@freemo Thanks. You might want to put that in the article.
@Elephantidae I will thanks.
@freemo OK, that's probably not something we are going to agree on. I think there is a big difference between "supporting an agenda" and "not standing up to nazis."
When I read your article I was expecting him to be secretly promoting nazi groups or something.
@Elephantidae Well it isnt that he was "not standing up to a nazi".. This isnt a case of inaction... It took a specific action, directly in line with the agenda of a nazi...
@freemo Right. But he wasn't doing it because he likes nazis or supports the hatred that they spew and the violence that they promote.
Again, I'm not saying what he did was right.
But the way you are framing it I don't think is helpful for improving the situation, but that's your business. It actually makes me skeptical of your side of the story.
I 100% support you speaking up about the matter. And I'm sorry that the nazis have succeeded in sowing disharmony among their enemy.
> Right. But he wasn't doing it because he likes nazis or supports the hatred that they spew and the violence that they promote.
Never said or implied he did. I said he supported their agenda, I also made clear he did so out of popularity and not out of support for the ideology. In fact I even point out int he past he opposed the ideology when it was popular for him to do so.
@freemo Yeah, I just don't think we are going to agree on that. But I do hope that after being publicly accused like this he is still willing to work with you. Maybe something good will come from it.
@Elephantidae fair, yes if he was willing to have a conversation im sure much of this could have been avoided.
@freemo I re-read the headline and the first paragraph.
I think the thing that rubs me the wrong way is that the world knows *very well* what the Nazi agenda is. Killing Jews, gays, trans people, socialists, etc. Anyone can tell you that.
So when you say he supports "Nazi's agenda" this is clearly what the readers are going to take the meaning to be.
You even go out of your way in the first paragraph to clarify that you mean real live Nazis.
@Elephantidae @freemo But isn't this the way that the Nazi's dominated in Germany historically? It wasn't "really" that most petty government officials saw themselves as doing terrible things. But by collective small actions and inaction they did serve the Nazi's goals. So effectively they were part of the Nazi machine. The danger they posed to others was that of real live Nazis.
Now, the fascists see the demolition of Twitter as a forum as a step forward for them. Thwarting Mastodon would be a next step. Not actively standing up to that would be a huge mistake.
@Elephantidae AS for how it hurt hte community... three ways I can think of.
1) It lends credibility to the Nazi's claims, giving the impression to others QOTO was delisted because the claims against it were true.
2) It significantly reduces our influx of new users. As a specialty instance it is not easy to find new users as a generalist instance might
3) it no longer shows up when trying to connect using the official mastodon app which relies on that list, causing people to have a hard time connecting even if they are already here.