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And when someone staps someone or beats them with a bat do we cry about how bats are legal... Yes there is a problem, but absurd solutions like making guns illegal is obviously not the answer.
What an ignorant and uninformed way to view the problem.
It sounds pretty much equivalent to saying things like:
"Oh why oh why are cars still legal when kids are dying in car accidents"
Or even worse yet: "If we made vaccines illegal people would stop dying of vaccines.
The reason is because these viewpoints are ignorant of the big picture. Guns save lives, and prevent incidents from happening, they also cause incidents. Any real argument looks at all of that at frames the issue as one of violence first and foremost.
No we arent "oh but we like our toys".. no its more like "Well these tools help us prevent deaths too, so we wont give them up over a poorly framed emotional argument.
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Nice goal post moving you did there.
Personally I beleive in bodily autonomy.. the same reason I support abortion is the reason I support access to suicide methods.
So guns being a route for suicide is not just ok, it is prefered.
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@freemo @MelodyCooper @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com So guns don't kill people but they save lives? How nice of them.
@freemo @MelodyCooper @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com Someone has to be this person so I'll proceed. Firearms are really cool and very dense in Physics and Engineering. With the War on X mentality, education has suffered.
The CETME's history and the development of the AR-15 are absolutely insane. Ian McCollum with Forgotten Weapons has really cool videos on the subjects.
It really says something when my interest in Electrochemistry was sparked by Uncle Fester. Fast forward to me using that information to protect structures from corrosion. It was 4 or 5 graduate level texts later but it still sparked that thirst for knowledge and eventual application.
Give kids every chance to stand in pure awe of something. One moment for me was seeing a real SR-71 in person. I couldn't touch it but still I got moved along by guards because I was paying too much attention. It was being serviced and I was able to see a little bit of the turbines. Not even porn has been that interesting. A crude example but it was that amazing. I can still visualize that section rather vividly approximately 24 years later.
Tons of physjcs stuff out there that leverages guns. Yes they serve many purposes beyond killing
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@freemo @MelodyCooper @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com The Mini 14 was a good lesson in why harmonics are important. The M4 was useful in learning why a 14.5in barrel using a round developed for a 16 to 20in barrel is not that good. Yep it took until 1996 to be formally introduced because of problems. Now it's being replaced with a battle rifle that weighs around 13.5lbs.
Ignore the Engineers and Designers. It's like NASA with O-rings. Communism doesn't stop for cold weather. We need another victory lap.
@AmpBenzScientist @freemo @MelodyCooper @stormy178 and in Vietnam they learned the hard way, going for velocity at the expense of all else doesn't work too well. That's how the early M16 got a bad rep.
@mike805 @freemo @MelodyCooper @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com Well the Gobment made the action button, changed the stick powder to something else, no cleaning kits were issued, for some reason they didn't have chrome lined barrels and add in around 800 rounds per minute of barely any recoil fed in 20 round magazines. It's empty after around 1.5 seconds.
The original round was very effective and it was classified as to why it was effective. The round was prone to fragmentation around 3000fps. So that's one reason that round was phased out and a different twist was used.
Add in the fact that the AK-47s were actually Chinese Type 56 rifles and the North Korean version. Both had milled receivers and weren't the garbage Soviet AKM. If you look at US GIs holding a captured AK rifle, there's likely a lightening cut above the magazine well. That's the Type 56.
With all that being said, it worked great for the USAF and special forces units. The fragmentation issue was deemed a metallurgical problem.
It's a wonder it survived.
@freemo @AmpBenzScientist @MelodyCooper @stormy178 Just about all tech is descended from weapons! The two basic human technologies are fire and sharp objects; everything else comes from those two.
More specifically, engines are descended from cannon. Newcomen was having no success with his steam power experiments until he hired a cannon maker to produce the cylinders. Then he finally had a good enough seal to make his engine work.
@mike805 @freemo @MelodyCooper @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com Diesel Engines and the fire piston. The Wankel and Mazda. Steam boilers exploding and the Sterling Engine.
@freemo @stormy178 Cars and drivers are regulated more than guns and gun owners are. While that truth sinks in (we’ll wait), in a diagram, here’s another emotional argument you won’t win. Keep trying though if it makes you feel better about suicides and 160 mass shootings to date in 2023. Good luck and Good night.