@freemo i never really got what it was they were proud of.

you deserve no credit for what you were born as -- dale carnegie

@icedquinn @freemo I agree. We also have 'deaf pride' here, which can go ridiculously far as well..

I think pride is either a misnomer.. or you need to see it at an individual level: You can be proud of who you are, just because you are yourself. No lying to yourself. If you're gay, fine, be proud of yourself! If you're deaf, fine, be proud of yourself! No need to be ashamed!

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LGBTQ have a long history of being shamed, and being stuck "in the closet" out of shame and fear... the use of the term "pride" is a counter to that, it isnt about being prideful of who you are, it is about having enough pride to not be ashamed of it.

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So, basically what I just said. :D The same counts for deaf people, you know.

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I'd certainly have nothing with deaf pride though either.. but since being deaf is so much harder to hide im not sure it has the same dynamic of being "in the closet". Though I am sure there has been no shortage of deaf people being shamed.

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@freemo @icedquinn Oh, but the problem is exactly because being deaf is not visible enough. You're blind? People help you. Wheelchair? People help you. Deaf? HOW RUDE WHY DID YOU NOT RESPOND TO ME *BAF*

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I've never noticed this myself, but how could I? I could count on one hand the number of deaf, blind, and mute people I have met in my 40 years of life, literally... at least in person that I knew about. 2 deaf people in my whole life, and similar numbers of blind.. never met a mute.

That said I'm sure you would know far more than me, so I defer to you on this one. It makes sense re: visibility I suppose.

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